Your Rights?

Wallhanger

Senior Member
I just left reading a closed thread about retrieving deer from adjacent property. 13 pages of wildly varying opinions and I can see why it was closed. Opinions varied from hardcore private property advocates to what'll it hurt to retrieve a deer by just a little trespassing. If you choose to bow hunt a small tract you knowingly may mortally wound an animal that you may not be reasonably able to recover on your tract. Unless you are a complete novice then this situation has been considered and deemed not important enough to attempt to alleviate prior to releasing an arrow. I wonder if this would have been posted at all had the deer been a forkhorn? It seems it was posted to seek sympathy and absolution from others to retrieve the deer. The poster was clearly aware of the limitations of his hunting tract and chose to release an arrow regardless, worry about any ramifications afterward. Didn't turn out the way he hoped so he seeks support for violating private property laws to assuage his dilemma. I've considered for many years purchasing wooded property to hunt but experiences from leasing property in rural areas dissuaded me from making the leap. It seems from my experience that 'most' people simply don't give a shot about property rights.
 

specialk

Senior Member
Been round here for awhile and this type thread shows up every year, i dont read much past the first 2 or 3 replies..wash,rinse,repeat....
 

Nimrod71

Senior Member
This is about like the tail chasing the dog. Everyone has their opinion. Property owners and hunters sometimes have different views. If you are going to hunt you need to be smart enough to prepare for things ahead of time. Small tracts present several problems, land hunting, retrieving animals, bait piles and a few others. I suggest before leasing or purchasing you should check with adjoining land owners. Good Luck.
 

Dutch

AMERICAN WARRIOR
People's "rights" end at my property line.

There is a reason for the "No Trespassing" signs. Want to retrieve a deer that crosses the line, ASK ...I will help you find it.

Don't ask...well then they can talk to the Sheriff.
 

rosewood

Senior Member
Aren't you able to retrieve your hunting dog from someone's property? Or are you up the creek on that also? How is that any different than retrieving a deer?

Rosewood
 

rosewood

Senior Member
People's "rights" end at my property line.

There is a reason for the "No Trespassing" signs. Want to retrieve a deer that crosses the line, ASK ...I will help you find it.

Don't ask...well then they can talk to the Sheriff.
Yet the tax assessor and other officials including the DNR can roam on your property at will. Guess we don't have those rights we think we do.
 
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livinoutdoors

Goatherding non socialist bohemian luddite
The way i see it is people do things but not other things. Then other folks come around and talk about all the things that they do or dont do. After awhile some folks get mad about the things that others do and then they talk about what they would do about those things in that situation.
 

elfiii

Admin
Staff member
Yet the tax accessor and other officials including the DNR can roam on your property at will. Guess we don't have those rights we think we do.

Ummmm no, they can't.
 

JustUs4All

Slow Mod
Staff member
Aren't you able to retrieve your hunting dog from someone's property? Or are you up the creek on that also? How is that any different than retrieving a deer?

Rosewood

Your dog can be called back from your side of the line legally, not so much for a dead deer.
 

The Original Rooster

Mayor of Spring Hill
Ummmm no, they can't.
Yep, there's just that issue of probable cause when it comes to law enforcement or a warrant.
Met my friendly tax assessor a few weeks ago to update our tax record with the pool. He did it right by knocking on the door and introducing himself and not just start walking all over the place without telling me he was there.
 

rosewood

Senior Member
Ummmm no, they can't.
Maybe they can't, but they do. Been a big discussion on another social media app in my area where folks have been seeing folks walking around their homes and taking pictures. After research, seems it is the tax assessor doing so and they have not been knocking on doors. I think they should be required to notify you.

I have also heard DNR can come on your property anytime they want to check folks hunting. Is this not true?

What is the probable cause to check your license? He is hunting, so he must be doing something illegal?

The laws conflict for sure.
 

specialk

Senior Member
Wanna get more folks riled up? Talk about what to do about dogs that can't read posted signs ???

i was coon hunting with a guy and his dog was burning a coons track up, all of a sudden the dog quit barking.....about 15 minutes went by and he opened up on the track again but he was several hundred yards farther away. I asked my buddy what happened and he said the coon crossed posted land and his dog saw the signs.....
 

elfiii

Admin
Staff member
Maybe they can't, but they do. Been a big discussion on another social media app in my area where folks have been seeing folks walking around their homes and taking pictures. After research, seems it is the tax assessor doing so and they have not been knocking on doors. I think they should be required to notify you.

Yes they should notify you. If you catch them you can require them to leave your property. That's going to create other problems for you but in the end maybe they will respect (fear :bounce:) you and next time they will make an appointment.

I have also heard DNR can come on your property anytime they want to check folks hunting. Is this not true?

What is the probable cause to check your license? He is hunting, so he must be doing something illegal?

The laws conflict for sure.

Open fields doctrine and Reasonable Articulable Suspicion. Lots of case law on it.
 
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