Same concept. Better to not create the problem. Just like throwing a puppy into extreme cold water on a freezing day. That will break a true water dog from loving the water.Delmar Smith a famous bird dog trainer in Texas talked about a type of oil well that would pop off the natural gas. He would take a gun shy dog and put the dog on a pen with food and waterlocated near the well .The well poped off continually. When he would return the dog would be cured of his gun shyness
Delmar Smith a famous bird dog trainer in Texas talked a type of oil well that would pop off the natural gas. He would take a gun shy dog and put the dog on a pen with food and water. The well poped off continually. When he would return the dog would be cured of his gun shyness
The oil well is 24 7, becoming the norm. That's a huge difference from a 60 min shell shock trip to a range.
What you advise is only going to terrify an already gun shy dog. It's akin to putting a man who already has shell shock in an environment that triggers his fear to the max as if that will cure him.
No I am not. This situation was created. I have trained many more gun dogs than most. Delmar Smith used this method to fix gun shy dogs. If the dog was exposed to gunfire continually it might fix the problem. Like I said might. The best way to prevent a gun shy dog is by proper conditioning. Its just like you create a Lab that does not want to go in the water . Take a puppy to a pond on a cold day and then when he does not want to go in the water because it is freezing and you make him go . Guess what you just created a problem.What you advise is only going to terrify an already gun shy dog. It's akin to putting a man who already has shell shock in an environment that triggers his fear to the max as if that will cure him.
That is because your dog or dogs associate gun fire with something good. Proper conditioning. It tells you how to do this in about every gun dog training video or book out there.I'm always afraid of my dogs going deaf because they all run TOWARD the gun fire and look for what ever you are shooting at.
I have to put them in a pen if I shoot much on the range of have company to shoot with.
Yea by avoiding the problem to start with. Just like an e collar in the hands of some one who just bought it and has no idea how to use it. That happens every day.Agree 100% atlashunter. Cruel and unusual to say the least. There are much better ways to go about.
take her to the firing range in a dog box and put him as close a s you can to the firing line as yo can get.
That would make it worse.
If it won't hunt, it just won't.
They make good pets and stick chaser's though.
What would you do? To help this man? Tarrant is a writer. Never saw him at hunt test or a field trial. His methodology is very dated just like Richard Wolters and Richard and I were friends.That's interesting because Bill Tarrant wrote the book on the Delmar Smith method as well as many other books on retriever training. In those books he chided those who recommend putting a dog on a firing line and instead recommends the method of gradual introduction others here have described. Maybe from the dogs perspective that pop on an oil well is far less traumatic than a firing range.
That would make it worse.
If it won't hunt, it just won't.
They make good pets and stick chaser's though.
What is your fix? For the problem . The man wants to try to fix his dog.
This is the conclusion I have come to. She loves the water and will retrieve with the best of them but as soon as she hears a bang shes gone. Do you think if I get another dog her behavior around gun fire, thunder and fireworks will affect the new dogs behavior?
Birds might help with your old dog. I would try to get her interested in birds . dont fire a gun . just try some ducks and pigeons. Get her going on birds.This is the conclusion I have come to. She loves the water and will retrieve with the best of them but as soon as she hears a bang shes gone. Do you think if I get another dog her behavior around gun fire, thunder and fireworks will affect the new dogs behavior?
I have posted my "fix".
How many have YOU fixed? Ok, NONE. lets just stick with that.
[/COLOR]
[/COLOR]
Probably will. Not really worth the risk. IMO.
king killer didn't get the memo.
Sorry about the dog. If you are that into it, get
another one that is gun broke from a registered breeder.
No fix here just a wash out . Never heard of a registered breeder. If you get a puppy get a pup out of gun dog stock and go find a pro to help you with your puppy. When did you become expert on Gun shy dogs? A Gun broke puppy. Give me a brake. They got to be trained.