SemperFiDawg
Political Forum Arbiter of Truth (And Lies Too)
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Oh. That's cute. What's next, putting gum in my seat?
The degradation you have to self-impose to be an atheist. It's sad......really.
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atlashunter, have you ever held the hand of a dying person and told them that everything was going to be OK even when you knew it wasn't? If it were your child would you tell them they were about to die and that was just how it was?
It is in human nature to try to comfort others in distress. It is also in human nature to try to resolve personal stress if possible. I doubt that the statement quoted would be comforting to an Atheist, but it would be to a believer. I suspect that an Atheist involved in a similar situation would try to resolve his own stress and to comfort others.
Your interpretation that the speaker has blamed the event on Jesus is ludicrous and you know it. Our opinions differ and that is not a problem but intellectual dishonesty is not helpful.
There is no greater intellectual dishonesty than a self identifying christian trying to point fingers at others in here."Intellectual dishonesty" is synonymous with Atheism. The fact that the his comment, aside from being infantile, is laughably false to anyone who reads the article is of no consequence to him. Anyone identifying as an Atheist has to first lie to themselves and swallow it. It should come as no surprise that people who can do so have no regard for the TRUTH.
There is no greater intellectual dishonesty than a self identifying christian trying to point fingers at others in here.
There is no greater intellectual dishonesty than a self identifying christian trying to point fingers at others in here.
You have provided us with more ID examples than most.
Priceless SFD.
atlashunter, have you ever held the hand of a dying person and told them that everything was going to be OK even when you knew it wasn't? If it were your child would you tell them they were about to die and that was just how it was?
It is in human nature to try to comfort others in distress. It is also in human nature to try to resolve personal stress if possible. I doubt that the statement quoted would be comforting to an Atheist, but it would be to a believer. I suspect that an Atheist involved in a similar situation would try to resolve his own stress and to comfort others.
Your interpretation that the speaker has blamed the event on Jesus is ludicrous and you know it. Our opinions differ and that is not a problem but intellectual dishonesty is not helpful.
Apparently there is.
I'm glad he swings by on occasion. It's entertaining.
Not me. He reminds of the ill mannered neighbor kid that just shows up in the yard during adult gatherings and kicks shins and runs away. At least I can lock my gate here.
Every time he throws out the "intellectually dishonest" bit it just makes me laugh.
It's exactly what was quoted in the article.
"I lost a lot of friends and family this morning, but that just means Jesus needed them more."
It's possible the person saying this actually does believe it. Many Christians do believe everything is controlled by God.
Satan did have run it by God to mess with Job.
The Word was with God from the beginning. Therefore the purpose for the Word was in place or in God's word/mind from the beginning.
We've actually had this discussion concerning the death of Jesus on the religious forum.
It's a tough discussion.
I held the hand of my dying mother in hospice. When I told her it was going to be ok, I also told her it was ok to go. She then gazed at the ceiling, beyond whatever we could see and started singing her favorite hymn in her weak faint voice, then she passed.
It was enough to tell me there was more out there because she saw it and I couldn't.
Not everything in this life or on this earth can be explained by science or reckoned with logic.
My wife has been an RN for 30 years. She has worked in three different hospitals on the Post Op Floor. Each and everyone of them had a presence, specter or ghost if you will that has been identified by multitudes of dying patients. At one it was a little boy, and each described him to the tee, though nobody else in the room could see him. He showed up in various intervals before the patient died.
My father n laws mother was in a coma for three weeks. While the family was in the room one afternoon she sat straight up in bed and started looking at one corner of the room then started speaking in a loud firm voice that her work wasn't done here and she was not ready to go. Then she laid back down into the coma. The next day she came out of it and lived a normal life for another five years before passing.
I could go on, but strange things happen in a hospital that no logic or science can dismiss.
Testify Brother. I found that the aaa's don't like personal testimony because they cant explain it. Their go to card is what about the other religions that claim the same.
It's a pretty good go to card. Lots of people make lots of claims but when pressed for hard evidence they can't come up with it. That's why skeptics discount it and believers retreat to it when arguments that are easier to test fall apart. I used to retreat to personal experience too when I was a believer. Eventually I realized it was because I didn't have any other leg to stand on.
Testify Brother. I found that the aaa's don't like personal testimony because they cant explain it. Their go to card is what about the other religions that claim the same.