Anybody else changed from what I want to load, to what I can find to load?

[GAHUNTER60]

I know I have. It used to be that I had a load -- or several different loads, depending on my intended game -- for each of my rifles that was very specific in terms of components used. These loads were recorded in my master recipe book, and set in stone. Yeah, sometimes I had to search a bit for a particular bullet or powder, but I would eventually find it.

My, how times have changed! Today I find myself buying powders I never dreamed I'd
use, and developing loads with it utilizing bullets I swore I'd never shoot! It's either that, or not load anything at all, because what I want shoot is not just hard to find, but in many cases totally impossible to find!

A few years ago, I thought these component shortages would end soon. Today, however, I fear that this is the new normal. In the future, we either learn to be flexible, or take up pickleball as a sport!

 

[Ruger#3]

I have deliberately bought powders suitable for multiple calibers that I load. One may not be my first choice in that caliber but it will work. Luckily, what I shoot has a lot of crossovers in powders.

 

[deerslayer357]

I have basically decided to find 2 loads for each rifle- different bullet and powder for each load. So far I have 2 calibers left to find a second loading for, one of which I am shooting a ladder of this afternoon to try to find the second load.


The other thing I have done is stack my components deep. For instance, I have enough R17 to last my lifetime- but I also have 6 different calibers with loads for that powder.

 

[Jester896]

I haven't ever found any RL-17, but I am lucky enough to have an ample supply of IMR4350, H4350 and W760

 

[Gav-n-Tn]

I have deliberately bought powders suitable for multiple calibers that I load. One may not be my first choice in that caliber but it will work. Luckily, what I shoot has a lot of crossovers in powders.

This ^^^^^

 

[bighonkinjeep]

Thats how I discovered Power Pro 2000MR.

Now, if I could just find some more...

 

[BriarPatch99]

Yes... that was my point in the RL 17 post ... there are other powders that have been much more available... that can do what RL17 can or nearly so...

Overlooked powders include the Ramshot, Accurate and others ...

Just for information... Reloder 17 is made by Nitrochemie in Switzerland ...most the other Alliant rifle powders are made in Sweden by what was Bofors(now BAE)

 

[BriarPatch99]

I help compile parts of this list a couple years ago...there could be changes that have been made since then..

Disclosure: While efforts were made based on available information obtained by the posting date, consider the accuracy posted with a grain of salt and please always reference published load data when developing your loads. When powders are recommended for calibers that lack current published load data, use them at your own risk.

Same exact powders (Same published load data, powder burn rate, charge weight and volume):

- Winchester W231 and Hodgdon HP-38
- Hodgdon HS-6 and Winchester W540
- Hodgdon HS-7 and Winchester W571
- Ramshot Silhouette and Winchester WAP
- Ramshot Enforcer and Accurate 4100
- Hodgdon 4227 and IMR 4227 (Hodgdon 4227 was discontinued in recent years and only IMR 4227 is currently available. BTW, Hodgdon owns IMR whereas Hodgdon sells Winchester powders under license)
- Winchester W296 and Hodgdon H110
- Accurate 2230 and Ramshot X-Terminator
- Accurate 2520 and Ramshot Wild Boar
- Alliant RL15 and Norma 203B
- Winchester W760 and Hodgdon H414

Comparable/close powders (Different load data, similar burn rate for reference BUT MUST USE published charge weight):

- Vihtavuori N310 and Vectan Ba10
- Alliant Red Dot and Vectan Ba9 1/2
- Alliant Red Dot and Alliant Promo (Alliant recommends using Red Dot load data by weight and not by volume)
- Alliant Red Dot and IMR Red
- Hodgdon Clays and Alliant Clay Dot (for shotgun loads)
- Hodgdon Clays and IMR Trail Boss?
- Hodgdon Clays/WST and Vectan Prima SV (for shotgun loads)
- Winchester WST and Ramshot Competition
- Accurate No. 2 and Shooters World Clean Shot/Lovex D032-03
- Hodgdon Titegroup and Vihtavuori N320
- Hodgdon Titegroup and Alliant Sport Pistol
- Hodgdon Titegroup and IMR Target
- Hodgdon Titegroup and Vectan AS (for pistol loads) / Prima V (for shotgun loads)
- Alliant Green Dot and IMR Green?
- Winchester W231/HP-38 and Ramshot Zip
- Winchester W231/HP-38 and Winchester W244 (W244 is slower burning than W231/HP-38)
- Winchester W231/HP-38 and Alliant Green Dot
- Winchester W231/HP-38 and Vectan 206V (for shotgun loads)
- Accurate No. 5 and Shooters World Auto Pistol/Lovex D036-03
- Accurate No. 5 and Vectan D-20/GM3 (for shotgun loads)
- Vihtavuori N330 and Vectan A1
- Alliant Unique/Universal and Vectan Ba9
- Alliant Unique and Hodgdon Universal Clays
- Alliant Unique and IMR Unequal?
- Alliant Unique and Alliant BE-86
- Alliant Unique and Alliant 20/28
- Alliant Power Pistol and Alliant BE-86 (Power Pistol is canister version of BE-84 and slower burning than BE-86)
- Alliant BE-86 and Alliant Herco (for 40S&W based on 2004 Alliant load data. No current load data from Alliant for Herco and 40S&W)
- Alliant Herco and Vectan A0
- Hodgdon CFE Pistol and Winchester AutoComp
- Winchester AutoComp and Shooters World Ultimate Pistol/Lovex D036-07
- CFE Pistol and Ramshot Silhouette?
- Winchester WSF and Ramshot Silhouette?
- Accurate No. 7 and Shooters World Major Pistol/Lovex D037-01
- Accurate No. 7 and Vectan Ba7 1/2
- Alliant Blue Dot and IMR Blue?
- Accurate No. 9 and Shooters World Heavy Pistol/Lovex D037-02
- Accurate No. 9 and Vectan Ba6 1/2
- Winchester W296/H110 and Alliant 300MP
- Winchester W296/H110 and Vectan Ba6 1/2
- Winchester W296/H110 and Vihtavuori N110
- Accurate 11FS and Winchester Alliant 300-MP/Hodgdon H110/Winchester W296?
- Accurate 5744 and Shooters World Cowboy/Lovex D060-01
- Accurate 1680 and Shooters World Blackout/Lovex D063-02
- Hodgdon H335 and Ramshot TAC
- Hodgdon H335 and Accurate 2230
- Hodgdon H335 and Shooters World AR Plus/Lovex D073-04
- Hodgdon 4895 and IMR 4895
- IMR 4895 and Accurate 2495?
- Hodgdon Varget and Accurate 4064/Alliant RL15/IMR 4064?
- Hodgdon Varget and Lovex S062-01
- Hodgdon BL-C(2) and Winchester 748
- Hodgdon BL-C(2) and Lovex D073-05
- Hodgdon CFE223 and Accurate 2520
- Hodgdon CFE223 and Shooters World Match Rifle/Lovex D073-06
- Hodgdon 4350 and Lovex S070-01
- Hodgdon 4831 and Lovex S071-01
- Norma MRP and Alliant RL22?

 

[BriarPatch99]

I happened to remember that I had made a list of powders and who they were made by at the time(Jan. 2016) ...there could have been changed since then ....thought may be interesting to some ...

Updated ... Those listed as made by Thales are no longer made by them ...GD now make most if not all those...

Powders sold by

Name Made In By Base Type

Hodgdon Powders
HI-Skor 700X USA Alliant D
HI-Skor 800X USA Alliant D
IMR 4166 Canada General Dynamics D
IMR 4451 Canada General Dynamics D
IMR 4955 Canada General Dynamics D
IMR 7977 Canada General Dynamics D
Clays Canada General Dynamics
Universal Clays Canada General Dynamics
International Clays Canada General Dynamics
IMR 3031 Canada General Dynamics
IMR 4007 SSC Canada General Dynamics
IMR 4064 Canada General Dynamics
IMR 4320 Canada General Dynamics
IMR 4350 Canada General Dynamics
IMR 4895 Canada General Dynamics
IMR 4831 Canada General Dynamics
IMR 7828 Canada General Dynamics
IMR 7828 SSC Canada General Dynamics
SR 4756 Canada General Dynamics
SR 4759 Canada General Dynamics
SR 7625 Canada General Dynamics
PB Canada General Dynamics
IMR 4198 Australia Thales
IMR 4227 Australia Thales
IMR 8208 XBR Australia Thales
Trail Boss Australia Thales
H 4895 Australia Thales
H 4227 Australia Thales
H 4198 Australia Thales
Varget Australia Thales
H 4350 Australia Thales
H 50 BMG Australia Thales
H 4831 Australia Thales
H 4831 SC Australia Thales
H 1000 Australia Thales
Retumbo Australia Thales
H 322 Australia Thales
Benchmark Australia Thales
HP 38 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
H 110 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
H 414 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
H 380 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
Lil' Gun Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
Hybrid 100V Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
HS 6 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
H 335 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
BL-C(2) Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
Titewad Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
Titegroup Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
Longshot Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
US869 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
Leverevolution Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
Superformance Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
CFE Pistol Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
CFE 223 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
W 231 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
W 296 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
WST Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
WSF Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
WSH Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
AA Lite Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
W 760 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
W 748 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
Supreme 780 Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder
AutoComp Crawfordville FL St. Marks Powder

Vihtavuori Powders
20N29 Finland Vihtavuori
3N37 Finland Vihtavuori
3N38 Finland Vihtavuori
N105 Finland Vihtavuori
N110 Finland Vihtavuori
N133 Finland Vihtavuori
N135 Finland Vihtavuori
N140 Finland Vihtavuori
N150 Finland Vihtavuori
N160 Finland Vihtavuori
N165 Finland Vihtavuori
N310 Finland Vihtavuori
N320 Finland Vihtavuori
N32C Finland Vihtavuori
N340 Finland Vihtavuori
N350 Finland Vihtavuori
N530 Finland Vihtavuori
N540 Finland Vihtavuori
N560 Finland Vihtavuori
N570 Finland Vihtavuori

Alliant Powders
Bullseye
Clay Dot
Promo
Unique
Power Pistol
Herco
Reloder 7 Sweden Bofors
Reloder 10X Sweden Bofors
Reloder 15 Sweden Bofors
Reloder 16 Switzerland Nitrochemie
Reloder 17 Switzerland Nitrochemie El Niesen 145
Reloder 19 Sweden Bofors
Reloder 22 Sweden Bofors
Reloder 23 Sweden Bofors
Reloder 25 Sweden Bofors
Reloder 26 Switzerland Nitrochemie EI-Niesen 155EA
Reloder 33 Switzerland Nitrochemie EI-Niesen 170
Reloder 50 Switzerland Nitrochemie

Accurate
AA #2 USA SMP
AA #5 USA SMP
AA #7 USA SMP
AA #9 USA SMP
AA 1680 USA SMP
AA 5744 Canada
AS 2015 Canada
AA 2200
AA 2230 Belgium PB Clermont
AA 2460 USA SMP
AA 2495 Canada
AA 2520 Belgium PB Clermont
AA 2700 USA SMP
AA 4064 Canada
AA 4350 Canada
AA 4100 Belgium PB Clermont
MagPro USA SMP
Nitro 100 NF
11FS USA SMP
TCM USA



Ramshot Powders
TAC Belgium PB Clermont
Zip Belgium
Silhouette USA SMP
True Blue Belgium PB Clermont
Enforcer Belgium PB Clermont
X-Terminator Belgium PB Clermont
Big Game Belgium PB Clermont
Hunter Belgium PB Clermont
Magnum Belgium PB Clermont
Competition USA

PB Clermont Powders Belgium

Norma Powders
N200
N201
N202
N203 B Sweden Bofors
N204
N217
MRP Sweden Bofors
URP

Lovex Powders Czech Republic Explosia
D013
DO32
DO36
D037.1
D037.2
DO60
D063
D073.4
D073.5
D073.6
D100
S011
S015
S020
S030
S035
S040
S053
S060
S065
S070
S071
Vesuvit

Vectan Powders France
Ba 6 1/2
Ba 7 1/2
Ba 9
Ba 9 1/2
Ba 10
Tubal 3000
Tubal 5000
Tubal 7000
Tubal 8000
SP 2
SP 3
SP 7
SP 8
SP 9
SP 10
SP 11
SP 12
SP 13
A 1
A 0
A S

 

[sleepr71]

BriarPatch… I hope you have written down most of what you know..so it can be passed on. You are a walking encyclopedia,on reloading.