Constitutional Carry- All Hands on Deck

[JeffinPTC]

If you live in one of these districts, please call:

Formatting is AFU(All Fouled Up, Moderator), so use the links
April 1, 2022

Dear GA2A Member,

Today is the next to the last day of this General Assembly and Monday, April 4 is sine die. We need you help to get SB 259 out of the House Rules Committee today.


Yesterday, the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee passed SB 259 again. It was recommitted to the committee last Monday in order to address some of the language involved in a person regaining their Constitutional rights once they have been taken away. We feel this is the most important bill of the year as it goes a long way in restoring our Second Amendment rights.

We now need you to contact the House Rules Committee and urge them to vote to pass SB 259 on to the House floor for an up or down vote. We are informed that the bill is being held up in the House Rules Committee and no one is pushing to get this bill passed. We need to pour on the heat and get this bill moved..
House Rules Committee:
Please contact the member of the House Rules Committee who is your representative and urge him/her to vote to pass these bills to the full House for a Floor vote. There are 38 members of the Committee who are listed here along with a link to their contact information.
We also need you to contact your representative urging them to vote for our bill when it comes to the floor for an up or down vote. If you do not know who your representative is, follow the link below to find your elected officials:
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Just click on the above link. Type in your address and click on and click on "Search by Address. The names and contact information of your Representative and Senator will be at the top of the next page.

We are getting very close to the end of this session, and we need your support to contact the above and urge them to vote for our bill.

Thank you for all your support thus far, but please do not slow down now!

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Name District Position Richard Smith134thChairmanMandi Ballinger23rdVice ChairmanRick Jasperse11thSecretaryTommy Benton31stMemberJames Beverly143rdMemberShaw Blackmon146thMemberJon Burns159thMemberJohn Carson46thMemberSharon Cooper43rdMemberKatie Dempsey13thMemberKarla Drenner85thMemberChuck Efstration104thMemberBarry Fleming121stMemberGerald Greene151stMemberMatt Hatchett150thMemberLee Hawkins27thMemberBill Hitchens161stMemberScott Holcomb81stMemberCarolyn Hugley136thMemberMack Jackson128thMemberJan Jones47thMemberDavid Knight130thMemberEddie Lumsden12thMemberChuck Martin49thMemberGreg Morris156thMember (Until 04/13/2021)Mark Newton123rdMemberButch Parrish158thMemberAlan Powell32ndMemberBonnie Rich97thMemberEd Setzler35thMemberLynn Smith70thMemberCalvin Smyre135thMemberRon Stephens164thMemberJan Tankersley160thMemberDarlene Taylor173rdMemberDavid Wilkerson38thMemberAl Williams168thMemberBruce Williamson115thMember

 

[Zebco The Clown]

How in danger is this of not passing?

 

[Railroader]

Cliff's Notes, please...

 

[JeffinPTC]

I'm just the messenger and I just forwarded the email. If you live in one of these districts, call your rep.
Jeff

 

[specialk]

passed this morning...waiting for governer to sign.....

https://www.cbs46.com/2022/04/01/ge...ks-forward-signing-constitutional-carry-bill/

 

[Jester896]

geez...couldn't find a Republican response to it

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

Pressure needs to still be applied this is not the constitutional carry bill, sb 259 is the preemption Bill. Keep the pressure up especially on John Burns

 

[Geezer Ray]

So what if anything does that do to purchasing fire arms and back ground checks?

 

[Zebco The Clown]

The news stories say this is the constitutional carry bill, can you explain what you mean about the preemption bill, and how its not the constitutional carry bill?

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

bition, and other things.

The bill has been sent back to a committee that it has already passed. - This is very bad. It's said that a few Republicants have a problem with the portions of the bill allowing discharge on properties larger than ten acres, church carry, and the portion allowing restoration of rights to those who have been denied previously for mental health reasons.

With the bill being sent back to a committee it has already passed, it is very likely the bill will be gutted unless we put enough pressure on the House to send it to the floor for a vote, without changes. Time is running out on this bill, with April 4th being the last day of the session. We REALLY need to contact everyone in the House who will listen, at this point.

My suggestion is to contact every member of the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee, the House Rules Committee, and the Speaker of the House, David Ralston, and ask that this bill be sent to the House floor for a vote, as-is, without changes.

Remind them that this bill has the support of the governor, and has already passed the Senate once. It will certainly pass as-is, if given a proper vote in the House.

I will link to the Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee's web page, as well as Speaker Ralston's web page. Their email addresses and phone numbers can be found by clicking their profiles.

It'd also be a good idea to contact the members of the Rules Committee, as they're the ones who sent it back to the Public Safety Committee in the first place. It also has a number of not particularly gun rights friendly Republicants and a number of downright awful Dems on it.

I'd respectfully ask that they hold their ground and insist on a full House vote, with no changes.

Georgia got really bad courthouse carry legislation, that makes a large number of government buildings off-limits, in this same manner. Not enough people spoke up then, so we need to speak up now. We're never gonna get rid of those restrictions, because our side gave them away without a fight; a fight we had already won - twice.

The House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee's web page can be found here.

The Rules Committee's web page can be found here.

Speaker Ralston's web page can be found here.

They may not return your call or email but I assure you, their assistants do keep tallies on the contacts in favor and those against. Please call, email, or both.

Thanks guys.

- 3/30/22 update: The new version of this bill includes language that will allow counties and other local governments to prohibit commercial shooting ranges by ordinance, but presumably allows private ones, on parcels of land ten acres or more. Meaning that commercial shooting ranges will no longer be afforded the protections this bill originally sought to provide. The protections for private shooting ranges has been weakened as well.

These changes make the bill worse and I don't support them.

I recommend we contact every member of the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee and ask them to insist on the version of the bill that already passed their committee once, prior to being sent back by the Rules Committee. The committee will meet in the morning to vote on the weakened version of the bill. They meet at 10 A.M., so we don't have much time.

The House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee's web page is here.

- 3/31/22 update: As expected, the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee gutted SB 359 today, after being instructed to do so by the Rules Committee. It weakened preemption, introducing language that will allow anti-gun localities to outlaw commercial shooting ranges by ordinance, removing the protections they would have previously been afforded if they were located on property of ten acres or more. They also removed language that would have protected private shooting ranges from most types of anti-gun ordinances, related to the discharge of firearms. This language would have protected the shooting sports in Georgia for many years to come and is very important.

This was done at the request of other Republicans, who joined the anti-gun Democrats. A number of anti-gun local politicians (city council members, assemblymen, etc.) spoke out against the bill, to members the Rules Committee, whom they appear to control by proxy. Another case of a vocal minority's wishes being placed above the voters of Georgia. This was done because a number of metro Republicans want to control what voters do with their own land.

Admittedly, time is running out here, and while there are 2 courses of possible action, I'd like to see a conference committee appointed here, in order to have the bad language stripped out and the previous version sent to both bodies for a floor vote. The way to go about that, is to ask the Senate to disagree with the House changes and ask that a conference committee be appointed.

The version we want of the bill is LC 39 3447S, the initial Public Safety and Homeland Security substitute.

The language we want struck from the bill is the following addition, to section 2:

"Nothing in this paragraph shall preempt a zoning ordinance which prohibits or limits commercial shooting ranges or other commercial activity upon such parcel."

The language we want added back to the bill is the following, which was removed from section 2 by the committee:

"Any such prohibition, by zoning, ordinance, resolution, or any other manner, is preempted."

I realize this is a big request guys but time is running out and they need to hear from us.

It's a bit of work, but we need to contact every one of the bill's sponsors, which can be found here.

We also need to contact Speaker Ralston, the members of the House Public Safety and Homeland Security Committee, and the members of the House Rules Committee. The contact information for all of them is listed earlier in the thread, above.

Tell them we want a conference committee appointed for SB 259 we want them to insist on version LC 39 3447S of the bill.

Thanks guys.

- 4/1/22 update: SB 319 (permit-less carry) passed the Senate today. The bill will now be sent to the Governor for his signature.

Having said that, please don't allow it to overshadow SB 259, the preemption bill, which is probably the most important 2nd Amendment bill Georgia has seen or will see in a long time.


Republicans are hoping you'll be distracted enough with 319's passing, to ignore the fact that they are trying to run out the clock on SB 259. Please don't fall for that. If you can, please call or email the House Rules committee and ask for this to be brought to the floor for a vote. We only have until Monday to get this done. It will likely be the last pro-gun legislation passed in Georgia, for our lifetimes. It will help protect us, from a future regime that is anti-gun.


Of particular importance is to politely contact Representative John Burns, the House Majority Leader.

 

[Zebco The Clown]

Explain it to me like I'm joe biden. The sticking point is that you can't set up a commercial gun range on less than 10 acres of property?

 

[tell sackett]

So, which version passed today that our guv looks forward to signing?

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

It removes the ability of a municipality or local government to override state law when it comes to the discharge of firearms

 

[DAVE]

Prohibiting a commercial gun range sounds like a bad idea until there is one next to your house.

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

The TLDR Version

This bill will legalize Church carry, allow online WCL applications, allow private property owners of property ten acres or larger to legally shoot on their own land and a number of other things that are good for gun owners. Metro counties from across the state and anti-gun groups from outside the state are actively trying to kill this bill. Only we can save it. It has already passed the Senate. Call and email all day Sunday and all day Monday, please.

 

[rosewood]

The TLDR Version

This bill will legalize Church carry, allow online WCL applications, allow private property owners of property ten acres or larger to legally shoot on their own land and a number of other things that are good for gun owners. Metro counties from across the state and anti-gun groups from outside the state are actively trying to kill this bill. Only we can save it. It has already passed the Senate. Call and email all day Sunday and all day Monday, please.

Church was already legal if you had a CCW and the church was ok with it. Did they remove the requirement of the church ok with it?

Rosewood

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

Church was already legal if you had a CCW and the church was ok with it. Did they remove the requirement of the church ok with it?

Rosewood

This bill removes the need to ask permission

 

[rosewood]

This bill removes the need to ask permission

Yeah, not liking that, the church is still private property. Guess it will still have to be like other private property, if the church ask you to leave and you do not, then you are trespassing.

Rosewood

 

[OwlRNothing]

Democrats. Republicans.


One vulture. Two wings.

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

It has made it to the floor so we shall see how it goes