bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Why so many denominations and which have it all correct?This is not the first time the church has been ostracized or persecuted, yet it's still here?
I know you've been in enough SS classes to know that.
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Why has Christianity lasted so long?
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jmharris23
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The vast majority of them are more alike than they are different
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Then why the need to form another denomination?
It's not like within Christianity there are 40.
It's 40THOUSAND!
jmharris23
Moderator
Because people..believers and unbelievers alike, have a real hard time agreeing on specifics and not getting stupid.
Artfuldodger
Senior Member
I look at it as the more we progress, we learn more about the Unity of Christ. We learn to be more spiritual and care less about one wearing flip flops and drinking coffee during the Church service.
If it brings more to hear the message then yes it is a business goal.
Artfuldodger
Senior Member
I had one that wanted to show me a video!
Artfuldodger
Senior Member
Why do hunting clubs have so many different rules yet they all have the same basic rules?
Would you say they are more alike than different or more different than alike?
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Because people..believers and unbelievers alike, have a real hard time agreeing on specifics and not getting stupid.
To me it seems like it is more of a issue of content accuracy and people will tweak and twist and change whatever necessary to fit their own views, beliefs and agendas.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
A Roman soldier?
jmharris23
Moderator
I don't really agree with your assessment here that it is an issue on content accuracy. Most denominations agree on the basics. They just have different opinions on tertiary issues.
But yes certainly people tweak and twist words to fit their own views, beliefs, and agendas.
That happens outside of religion too.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Religion is supposed to be people following the word of god (s) who is/are supposed to be infallible and the ultimate truth. There shouldn't need to be any twisting or tweaking unless they find the word to be fallible and untruthful.
Outside of religion the real world is full things that are suspect.
As far as religions go, Christianity is certainly not the oldest in common practice, or anywhere near the longest-lasting in history. Hinduism and Buddhism both predate Christianity and are still going strong. Hinduism in particular has been around at least twice as long as Christianity. Islam is only a few hundred years behind Christianity at the moment.
Past religions that were practiced for as long or longer time periods than Christianity has currently been around would include Celtic polytheism, The ancient Egyptian religion, Germanic polytheistic religions such as the Norse/Viking religion, Phoenecian/Mediterranean worship of Baal and Dagon, the Greco-Roman religion, various North American tribal religions, etc.
Just because they aren't around today doesn't mean that they didn't have a good run for thousands of years. And some of those, such as Celtic paganism, are making a pretty good comeback today.
Past religions that were practiced for as long or longer time periods than Christianity has currently been around would include Celtic polytheism, The ancient Egyptian religion, Germanic polytheistic religions such as the Norse/Viking religion, Phoenecian/Mediterranean worship of Baal and Dagon, the Greco-Roman religion, various North American tribal religions, etc.
Just because they aren't around today doesn't mean that they didn't have a good run for thousands of years. And some of those, such as Celtic paganism, are making a pretty good comeback today.
WaltL1
Senior Member
To me it kind of seems like you are trying to put a silk hat on a pig?
Tertiary issues?
Many of them don't even agree on who and how you get the big ticket upstairs.
That's not so "tertiary" .......
jmharris23
Moderator
I'm sorry.... you're right. When I was thinking of Christian denominations, I was thinking of those historically considered Christian, so we have a different definition of denominations. I should have said and should add secondary issues as well.
WaltL1
Senior Member
Maybe?
Its possible I may be referring to different Christian beliefs as opposed to the "official" doctrine of their denomination.
Do all denominations agree that only specific people are prechosen for Heaven regardless of whether they believe or not?
Faith vs works?
Once saved always saved?
Correct % amounts of offerings?
etc etc
jmharris23
Moderator
Even the word of god that we believe says that we will mess it up and get it wrong sometimes.
But I get what you're saying. If I tried to rebuttal this, I would have to use the bible that you don't believe to give you an answer and I guess that would be a waste of both of our time.
jmharris23
Moderator
No they do not all agree on all of those issues. But they do agree that Christ lived, died, was buried, and resurrected. They believe that their salvation and eternity are secured through that belief.
The rest of it is interpretation. But it doesn't change the main message which is the main issue.
WaltL1
Senior Member
Yes
No.
See the differences I sited. If the differences in the beliefs of the denominations didn't (supposedly) matter there would be one denomination. No?
Any chance you are mixing "how it should be" with "how it is"?
jmharris23
Moderator
Sure that's certainly possible.
WaltL1
Senior Member
Its kind of a shame that Christianity/Christians couldn't have just left it at that.
It would have eliminated a lot of our (nonbelievers) rebuttal points on alot of these discussions
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