cam88
Senior Member
Got drawn for second hunt!!
See you there!Got drawn for second hunt!!
Plenty of deer there. I enjoy going when I get drawn. I wished they’d go back to the old rules though. Lots of 2.5y/o 8pts get killed now on that WMA.
Looking at a data set from 2003 to present, I averaged the age of all the antlered bucks killed on Joe Kurz before the change in antler restrictions and after the change. Here are the average ages:
2003-2011=3.35 years old
2012-2020=3.24 years old
Number of bucks killed:
2003-2011= 104 bucks 3.5 or older
2012-2020= 103 bucks 3.5 or older
Guess I need to brush up on my age judging based on eye sight. There’s been several bucks I’ve seen that supposedly came from Kurz that looked awfully small to be 3.5+.
Thanks for the data Charlie. Hope to add to that data this coming October.Looking at a data set from 2003 to present, I averaged the age of all the antlered bucks killed on Joe Kurz before the change in antler restrictions and after the change. Here are the average ages:
2003-2011=3.35 years old
2012-2020=3.24 years old
Number of bucks killed:
2003-2011= 104 bucks 3.5 or older
2012-2020= 103 bucks 3.5 or older
Year before last I went to the check station and watched a guy( who said he wasnt a biologist ) age 4 bucks that came in. 3 out of the 4 were barely 100 inches if that and he aged all of them in the 3 to 4 year range. I know im arm chair quarter backing here but theres no way any of the bucks I saw were over 2 1/2 . In that county with those genetics and the surrounding properties mainly being trophy clubs a 4 year old is a hoss that rarely is seen during daylight hours.Guess I need to brush up on my age judging based on eye sight. There’s been several bucks I’ve seen that supposedly came from Kurz that looked awfully small to be 3.5+.
I got drawn for the first hunt. Havent had time to make it down to scout either. I hope to wing it and avoid as many hunters as possible. Something different.Got drawn for the first hunt.
I’ll be thereI got drawn for the first hunt. Havent had time to make it down to scout either. I hope to wing it and avoid as many hunters as possible. Something different.
I just stopped by the check station to see. Lots of does seen but not a lot of bucks.How was the hunt?
I just stopped by the check station to see. Lots of does seen but not a lot of bucks.
While I agree with you to some degree, it is a WMA and they are legal. I'm not interested in a basket rack 8 pointer myself but, I completely understand that most folks who sign up to hunt them are going to shoot the first legal buck they see.The WMA has potential to be very good, the serious problem is that the deer are getting “high graded” meaning the best genetically 1.5-3.5 YO are either getting killed or run off the property from all the small game/ big game hunting pressure.
When all the basket 8’s and 10’s get shot at 2.5 YO, you allow the 4pt and 6pt’s that are the same age to grow where their genetic antler peak might only be 120” as opposed to +140”...
It’s a shame, a lot of folks get greedy and feel they used priority points so they’re going to kill something. I’ve scouted Kurz heavily and found many dead basket 6’s I feel hunters left to rot because they wouldn’t make the antler reg cut...