Faith in Randomness

Thanatos

Senior Member
Don't waste your time praying. Free Will erases it and predestination says I never had a chance. Those are your gods rules.

...and you should never doubt God's will and nothing overcomes that. He would not be omnipotent if it did. Hope and love man. That's what it's all about. Good night man. Take care and God bless.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
...and you should never doubt God's will and nothing overcomes that. He would not be omnipotent if it did. Hope and love man. That's what it's all about. Good night man. Take care and God bless.

Clearly there is ZERO omnipotence involved even if there was a shred of a chance that the god you worship exists. The only book you have that explains him derails his omnipotence and omniscience.

Peace out. I will sacrifice a goat in your name.
Blesses to you in the names of these Gods.
I'll just go with the Greek ones tonight:

Greek Gods: A
Achelois, Achelous, Acheron, Achilles, Achthonian, Acidalia, Adamanthea, Adephagia, Adonis, Adrastea, Adrasteia, Aeacos, Aeacus, Aegaeon, Aegina, Aegle, Aello, Aellopos, Aeolos, Aeolus, Aer, Aesculapius, Aethalides, Aether, Aethon, Aetna, Agave, Agdistes, Agdos, Aglaea, Aglaia, Aglauros, Aglaurus, Agraulos, Agrotara, Agrotora, Aiakos, Aigle, Aiolos, Air, Aither, Alcemana, Alcides, Alcmena, Alcmene, Alcyone, Alecto, Alectrona, Alexandra, Aloadae, Alpheos, Alpheus, Amalthea, Amaltheia, Amarynthia, Ampelius, Amphion, Amphitrite, Amphitryon, Amymone, Ananke, Andromeda, Antaeus, Antaios, Anteros, Anticlea, Antiklia, Antiope, Apate, Aphrodite, Apollo, Apollon, Arachne, Arcas, Ares, Arethusa, Argeos, Argus, Ariadne, Arion, Arion(2), Aristaeus, Aristaios, Aristeas, Arkas, Artemis, Asclepius, Asklepios, Asopus, Asteria, Asterie, Astraea, Astraeus, Atalanta, Ate, Athamas, Athamus, Athena, Athene, Atlantides, Atlas, Atropos, Attis, Attropus, Augean Stables, Augian Stables, Aurai, Autolycus, Autolykos, Auxesia
Greek Gods: B
Bacchae, Bacchantes, Balius, Bellerophon, Bia, Bias, Boreads, Boreas, Briareos, Briareus, Bromios
Greek Gods: C
Cadmus, Caeneus, Caenis, Calais, Calchas, Calliope, Callisto, Calypso, Cassandra, Castor, Cecrops, Celaeno, Celaeno(2), Celoneo, Ceneus, Cerberus, Cercopes, Cerigo, Cerynean Hind, Ceryneian Hind, Cerynitis, Ceto, Chaos, Charites, Charon, Charybdis, Cheiron, Chelone, Chimaera, Chimera, Chione, Chiron, Chloe, Chloris, Chronos, Chronus, Circe, Clio, Clotho, Clymene, Coeus, Coltus, Comus, Cottus, Cotys, Cotytto, Cretan Bull, Crius, Cronos, Cronus, Cybele, Cyclopes, Cyclops, Cynthia, Cyrene, Cytherea
Greek Gods: D
Danae, Daphnaie, Deimos, Deimus, Deino, Delos, Delphyne, Demeter, Demphredo, Deo, Despoena, Deucalion, Deukalion, Dice, Dike, Dione, Dionysos, Dionysus, Dioscuri, Dithyrambos, Doris, Dryades, Dryads
Greek Gods: E
Echidna, Echo, Eileithyia, Eirene, Ekhidna, Ekho, Electra, Electra(2), Electra(3), Elektra, Eleuthia, Elpis, Empousa, Empousai, Empusa, Enosichthon, Enyalius, Enyo, Eos, Epaphos, Epaphus, Ephialtes, Epimeliades, Epimeliads, Epimelides, Epimetheus, Epiona, Epione, Epiphanes, Erato, Erebos, Erebus, Erichthoneus, Erichthonius, Erinyes, Eris, Eros, Erotes, Erymanthean Boar, Erymanthian Boar, Erytheia, Erytheis, Erythia, Ether, Eumenides, Eunomia, Euphrosyne(2), Europa, Euros, Eurus, Euryale, Eurybia, Eurydice, Eurynome, Eurystheus, Euterpe
Greek Gods: F
Fates, Furies
Greek Gods: G
Ga, Gaea, Gaia, Gaiea, Galeotes, Ganymede, Ganymedes, Ge, Geryon, Geryones, Geyron, Glaucus, Gorgons, Graces, Graeae, Graiae, Graii, Gratiae, Gyes, Gyges
Greek Gods: H
Hades, Haides, Halcyone, Hamadryades, Hamadryads, Hapakhered, Harmonia, Harmony, Harpies, Harpocrates, Harpyia, Harpyiai, Hebe, Hecate, Hecatoncheires, Hecatonchires, Hekate, Hekatonkheires, Helen, Helice, Helios, Helius, Hemera, Hemere, Hephaestus, Hephaistos, Hera, Heracles, Herakles, Hermaphroditos, Hermaphroditus, Hermes, Hespera, Hesperethousa, Hesperia, Hesperides, Hesperids, Hesperie, Hesperis, Hesperos, Hesperus, Hestia, Himeros, Hippolyta, Hippolytos, Hippolytta, Hippolytus, Hope, Horae, Horai, Hyacinthus, Hyades, Hydra, Hydriades, Hydriads, Hygeia, Hygieia, Hymen, Hymenaeus, Hymenaios, Hyperion, Hypnos, Hypnus, Hyppolyta, Hyppolyte
Greek Gods: I
Iacchus, Iambe, Iapetos, Iapetus, Ilithyia, Ilythia, Inachus, Ino, Io, Ion, Iphicles, Irene, Iris
Greek Gods: J
No deities currently known - Godchecker.com
Greek Gods: K
Kadmos, Kalais, Kalliope, Kallisto, Kalypso, Kekrops, Kelaino, Kerberos, Keres, Kerkopes, Keto, Khaos, Kharon, Kharybdis, Kheiron, Khelone, Khimaira, Khione, Khloris, Khronos, Kirke, Kleio, Klotho, Klymene, Koios, Komos, Kore, Kottos, Krios, Kronos, Kronus, Kybele, Kyklopes, Kyrene
Greek Gods: L
Lachesis, Laertes, Lakhesis, Lamia, Lampetia, Lampetie, Leda, Leimoniades, Leimoniads, Lethe, Leto, Limoniades, Limoniads, Linus
Greek Gods: M
Maenads, Maia, Maiandros, Maliades, Mares of Diomedes, Meandrus, Medea, Medousa, Medusa, Meliades, Meliads, Meliai, Melidae, Melpomene, Memnon, Menoetius, Menoitos, Merope, Metis, Minos, Minotaur, Mnemosyne, Modesty, Moirae, Moirai, Momos, Momus, Mopsus, Mormo, Mormolykeia, Morpheus, Mount Olympus, Mousai, Muses, Myiagros
Greek Gods: N
Naiades, Naiads, Naias, Nemean Lion, Nemeian Lion, Nemesis, Nephele, Nereides, Nereids, Nereus, Nike, Nikothoe, Niobe, Nix, Nomios, Nona, Notos, Notus, Nox, Nymphai, Nymphs, Nyx
Greek Gods: O
Oannes, Obriareos, Oceanides, Oceanids, Oceanus, Ocypete, Odysseus, Oeager, Oeagrus, Oenomaus, Oinone, Okeanides, Okypete, Okypode, Okythoe, Olympus, Omphale, Oreades, Oreads, Oreiades, Oreiads, Oreithuia, Oreithyia, Orion, Orithyea, Orithyia, Orpheus, Orphus, Orth, Orthrus, Ossa, Otus, Ourania, Ouranos
Greek Gods: P
Paeon, Paieon, Paion, Pallas, Pallas(2), Pallas(3), Pallas(5), Pallas Athena, Pan, Panacea, Panakeia, Pandemos, Pandora, Pasiphae, Pasithea, Pegasos, Pegasus, Pelops, Pemphredo, Penia, Penie, Perse, Perseis, Persephone, Perseus, Persis, Perso, Petesuchos, Phaethousa, Phaethusa, Phaeton, Phantasos, Phema, Pheme, Phemes, Philammon, Philomenus, Philyra, Philyre, Phobetor, Phobos, Phobus, Phoebe, Phoebe(2), Phoibe, Phorcys, Phorkys, Phospheros, Pleiades, Ploutos, Plutus, Podarge, Podarke, Pollux, Polyhymnia, Polymnia, Polyphemos, Polyphemus, Pontos, Pontus, Poros, Porus, Poseidon, Priapos, Priapus, Prometheus, Proteus, Psyche, Pyrrha, Python
Greek Gods: Q
No deities currently known - Godchecker.com
Greek Gods: R
Rhadamanthus, Rhadamanthys, Rhamnusia, Rhea, Rheia
Greek Gods: S
Sabazius, Salmoneus, Sarapis, Sarpedon, Scamander, Scylla, Seilenos, Seirenes, Selene, Semele, Serapis, Sibyl of Cumae, Sibyls, Silenos, Silenus, Sirens, Sisyphus, Sito, Skamandros, Skylla, Spercheios, Spercheus, Sperkheios, Sphinx(2), Sterope, Stheno, Stymphalian Birds, Stymphalion Birds, Styx, Syrinx
Greek Gods: T
Tantalus, Tartaros, Tartarus, Taygete, Telchines, Telkhines, Terpsichore, Terpsikhore, Tethys, Thalassa, Thaleia, Thalia, Thamrys, Thanatos, Thanatus, Thanotos, Thaumas, Thea, Thebe, Theia, Thelxinoe, Themis, Theseus, Thetis, Thetys, Three Fates, Titanes, Titanides, Titans, Tithonus, Triptolemos, Triptolemus, Triton, Tritones, Tyche, Tykhe, Typhoeus, Typhon
Greek Gods: U
Ulysses, Urania, Uranus
Greek Gods: V
No deities currently known -
Greek Gods: W
No deities currently known -
Greek Gods: X
Xanthos, Xanthus
Greek Gods: Y
No deities currently known -
Greek Gods: Z
Zephyros, Zephyrs, Zephyrus, Zetes, Zethes, Zethus, Zeus
 

Thanatos

Senior Member
Clearly there is ZERO omnipotence involved even if there was a shred of a chance that the god you worship exists. The only book you have that explains him derails his omnipotence and omniscience.

Peace out. I will sacrifice a goat in your name.
Blesses to you in the names of these Gods.
I'll just go with the Greek ones tonight:

The fact that you can state clearly you understand how the will of man and the will of God works together when countless other theologians spend their whole livies trying to figure this principle out shows the hubris it takes to claim, "God does not exist".
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
The fact that you can state clearly you understand how the will of man and the will of God works together when countless other theologians spend their whole livies trying to figure this principle out shows the hubris it takes to claim, "God does not exist".

I'm a quick learner
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
The fact that you can state clearly you understand how the will of man and the will of God works together when countless other theologians spend their whole livies trying to figure this principle out shows the hubris it takes to claim, "God does not exist".

There are people that run around the woods, dedicating their lives to studying "Typical 'Squatch Behavior" and not a single one of them has ever or will ever actually observe a "squatch". Yet they are "experts"
The same can be said of your theologians. The reason they can't figure it out is because they are looking for the impossible. They can't figure it out because there is absolutely nothing to figure out.
It does not take much to be an expert of nothing.
 
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Thanatos

Senior Member
There are people that run around the woods, dedicating their lives to studying "Typical 'Squatch Behavior" and not a single one of them has ever or will ever actually observe a "squatch". Yet they are "experts"
The same can be said of your theologians. The reason they can't figure it out is because they are looking for the impossible. They can't figure it out because there is absolutely nothing to figure out.
It does not take much to be an expert of nothing.

You are comparing Cryptozoology to Christianity....If you want people to take you seriously then be serious.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
You are comparing Cryptozoology to Christianity....If you want people to take you seriously then be serious.

There are just as many people that study every other religion as in depth as they study your Christianity. Every single one of you are in the same sinking boat and the Captain is not only not staying with the ship....there never was a Captain.
Now I am comparing religion to religion. Serious enough for you?
 

Thanatos

Senior Member
There are just as many people that study every other religion as in depth as they study your Christianity. Every single one of you are in the same sinking boat and the Captain is not only not staying with the ship....there never was a Captain.
Now I am comparing religion to religion. Serious enough for you?

Better logic for sure. The problem is that the boat you're on is sinking too you just don't believe it is.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
Better logic for sure. The problem is that the boat you're on is sinking too you just don't believe it is.

Why because every day in the news there is more and more evidence of any gods, let alone your god?
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
Better logic for sure. The problem is that the boat you're on is sinking too you just don't believe it is.

OR wait, I am missing out on what your God provides in an afterlife so I am on a sinking boat by not joining the party?
Well I have a couple billion others in with me that are bailing water and the boat is still afloat.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
Better logic for sure. The problem is that the boat you're on is sinking too you just don't believe it is.

As far as being Atheists I have you by ONE less God. For the same reasons that you use to rule out all those others Gods I use against yours. You think it is absurd for others to worship the phony jibberish that they think is real. And you do all that while pulling the same stunt. You don't have a single thing that stands out to make your god any more believable than any of the others and you DON'T tell me I am wrong for not believing in ALL of the same ones that you refuse to believe in but I am wrong because I lump yours into the same group. OK buddy. 10-4
 

Thanatos

Senior Member
As far as being Atheists I have you by ONE less God. For the same reasons that you use to rule out all those others Gods I use against yours. You think it is absurd for others to worship the phony jibberish that they think is real. And you do all that while pulling the same stunt. You don't have a single thing that stands out to make your god any more believable than any of the others and you DON'T tell me I am wrong for not believing in ALL of the same ones that you refuse to believe in but I am wrong because I lump yours into the same group. OK buddy. 10-4

I get so tired of posting the same thing over and over...ive stated my beliefs and the evidence of the Judeo Christian God before. I will do it again I suppose. I need to write a whole post so when it comes up again I can link it.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
I get so tired of posting the same thing over and over...ive stated my beliefs and the evidence of the Judeo Christian God before. I will do it again I suppose. I need to write a whole post so when it comes up again I can link it.

If it was noteworthy it would not be so soon forgotten. Evidence that you accept and evidence that is unquestionable are two very different things.
 

Artfuldodger

Senior Member
If it was noteworthy it would not be so soon forgotten. Evidence that you accept and evidence that is unquestionable are two very different things.

From your Atheist viewpoint looking into Christianity, do you have a choice to be a Christian? In other words, when you did believe, did you or do you now have a choice to be a Christian or did our Potter, not yours, form you for another reason? Maybe your formation was to strengthen our faith. Kinda bad that you are collateral damage for Christians who do believe that is your mission.
I don't follow that belief. Now I'm going to have to research how many Christians follow election vs freewill.
I wonder what God's mission was to promise you Salvation and then snatch it form you if you did once believe and now you don't? That's why I believe it's your choice, I can't see God letting you think you have salvation only to change your mind and think you don't have salvation.
Wow, it just got confusing. Isn't that exactly what God did to the Jews? Just when I think I've got it figured out, something like this enters my mind. It's way past my bed time, hopefully through prayer, dreams, and a good nights sleep, i'll have more insight.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
From your Atheist viewpoint looking into Christianity, do you have a choice to be a Christian? In other words, when you did believe, did you or do you now have a choice to be a Christian or did our Potter, not yours, form you for another reason? Maybe your formation was to strengthen our faith. Kinda bad that you are collateral damage for Christians who do believe that is your mission.
I don't follow that belief. Now I'm going to have to research how many Christians follow election vs freewill.
I wonder what God's mission was to promise you Salvation and then snatch it form you if you did once believe and now you don't? That's why I believe it's your choice, I can't see God letting you think you have salvation only to change your mind and think you don't have salvation.
Wow, it just got confusing. Isn't that exactly what God did to the Jews? Just when I think I've got it figured out, something like this enters my mind. It's way past my bed time, hopefully through prayer, dreams, and a good nights sleep, i'll have more insight.

I think it is much more simple than that. You are here. I am here. No god is here. Occam's Razor. It is usually the most simple solution. Things are what they are.
Free Will. Predestined. Excuses for whichever situation arises that one or the other will fit, but if either one is true they cancel the other out. Can't have both.
 

Thanatos

Senior Member
I think it is much more simple than that. You are here. I am here. No god is here. Occam's Razor. It is usually the most simple solution. Things are what they are.
Free Will. Predestined. Excuses for whichever situation arises that one or the other will fit, but if either one is true they cancel the other out. Can't have both.

Unless there is a God that gave man free will and the ability to use that inside of God's own will :banginghe
 

Thanatos

Senior Member
If it was noteworthy it would not be so soon forgotten. Evidence that you accept and evidence that is unquestionable are two very different things.

Why do you say my God can not exist when I can not produce this unquestionable evidence when you can not produce unquestionable proof of your own theory of how we began? Is that not a double standard? We base all of our decisions and have faith in ideas, people on the information we are given.
 

ted_BSR

Senior Member
Hilarious!!! No one can disprove anything. It is not possible. Someone talked about the "fact" that matter cannot be created or destroyed. It is eternal.

Well, I invite anyone to come up with ANY scientific experiment that includes the variable of eternity. Good luck.

It makes me laugh to see that some people have the utmost faith in something like science, when they don't have a clue how it works.

Don't tell me that my gun shoots blanks when yours shoots backwards. Point the barrel forwards.
 
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