ambush80
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Did you think my positions would be held by a younger person and not an older one? Do they seem naive?
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oldfella1962
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"End of the world?" NETFLIX has a few EOTW movies on at any give time it seems!
I think it's their favorite subject.
livinoutdoors
Goatherding non socialist bohemian luddite
No not about being naive or not, just more about the level of tolerence for certain tech based on age. I would think that younger folks who grew up with all this stuff would find it easier to swallow a future made of hybrid humans or even a new "species." I also know that myself, @Danuwoa and @The Original Rooster @NCHillbilly are gen xers. We lived before all this, but i guess you did too.
ambush80
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"End of the world?" NETFLIX has a few EOTW movies on at any give time it seems!
I skipped past the dirty word but you should see the first part.
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ambush80
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There are many things I say and do that make me sound like a "Get off my lawn!!!" Boomer. As I said earlier, I'm ambivalent about this tech. I do like new and shiny things......
livinoutdoors
Goatherding non socialist bohemian luddite
And i have to say it doesnt sit well with me. There is a huge change coming to the world and im not sure its a good one. There are many like me for various reasons. Some religious. Some enviromental. Some just because its new. I think the people pushing this stuff dont care what happens overall and just want it to happen. This could be a line in the sand moment for humanity. Only time will tell.
ambush80
Senior Member
History shows that every time some new tech comes along there are many people who fear it will cause calamity; every time. History will also show that every time new tech causes a problem, there are bright, motivated people who solve it.
The Original Rooster
Mayor of Spring Hill
So long as tech really serves me and saves me time and work instead of just making new problems, work, and worry for me, I'll use it and I'm fine with it. Otherwise, I'm happier to do without.
livinoutdoors
Goatherding non socialist bohemian luddite
Our lives are better because of the industrial revolution. It killed and starved and displaced many who had to live through the change. The changes coming make that revolution look like man changing from an axe to a saw.
Spotlite
Resident Homesteader
Sone things I still just like to do without technology.
Planting a field - GPS vs techniques passed on…….
Folks ain’t going to know how to do anything when a signal is lost.
ambush80
Senior Member
Example?
ambush80
Senior Member
There are luddite movements like Extinction Rebellion who think we should return to some pastoral utopia, though from what I've seen of them, none of them look like they know which end of a plow to hook to the mule.
livinoutdoors
Goatherding non socialist bohemian luddite
Thats the true danger really aint it? Handing off so many things to something else. Now that something else becomes something you cant live without. That tool or more accurately the people who make it now become your master.
ambush80
Senior Member
I think I've forgotten how to throw a barrel diamond hitch with running crows foot on a Decker pack saddle......
Yup. Totally forgot.
ambush80
Senior Member
I used to tease my urbanite hipster friends that they should be nicer to me, cause when it goes down, I'm the only one around here who knows how to make meat.
The Original Rooster
Mayor of Spring Hill
I cannot tell you how many times new tech and updates at work has caused us all sorts of problems. Especially in cases of marginal increases of performance but we end up with significantly worse reliability, thus negating any performance gained.
In the auto world, and some mechanics on here can give even more examples, supposedly cleaner and more fuel efficient motors wind up being absolute junk. The Buick 3800 V6 was a wonderful motor. Fairly powerful, fuel efficient, durable, and easy to work on. It was replaced with a piece of junk. The same thing with the AMC 4.0 liter straight 6. Great motor that was replaced in the early 2000's with unreliable junk. The Chevy LS motor is another one that they messed up with active fuel management.
In the dog food world, my dog can't seem to tell the difference between his old food and the "new and improved taste" food...
livinoutdoors
Goatherding non socialist bohemian luddite
I have to agree with ya there. Many are just reacting but dont really know what to do. There are others though, who are working on solutions that try to fix the balance between man and nature. Joel salatin is a big name among them. I dont feel like humans have no right to exist and all that, but i do feel we need to look around and say is this fair to the whole planet if we do this?
ambush80
Senior Member
I cannot tell you how many times new tech and updates at work has caused us all sorts of problems. Especially in cases of marginal increases of performance but we end up with significantly worse reliability, thus negating any performance gained.
In the auto world, and some mechanics on here can give even more examples, supposedly cleaner and more fuel efficient motors wind up being absolute junk. The Buick 3800 V6 was a wonderful motor. Fairly powerful, fuel efficient, durable, and easy to work on. It was replaced with a piece of junk. The same thing with the AMC 4.0 liter straight 6. Great motor that was replaced in the early 2000's with unreliable junk. The Chevy LS motor is another one that they messed up with active fuel management.
In the dog food world, my dog can't seem to tell the difference between his old food and the "new and improved taste" food...
I still don't understand why anybody thought that masonite would make good siding. But, hey, most new ideas are wrong. Gotta keep trying.
ambush80
Senior Member
I think I read David Deutch say "We don't have limited resources, we just lack knowledge of how to use them well", or something like that. He said that in deep space, there may only be one atom in a million square miles but with the right knowledge of how to collect them, those atoms could be used to build and fuel some kind of craft.
The Original Rooster
Mayor of Spring Hill
Part of the problem is that too many folks don't look at the full balance sheet and only focus on their own part of it, often because of greed.
Wind turbines are a perfect example. A potentially good idea ruined by using blades that just about can't be destroyed, reused, or recycled, thereby negating any clean energy or costs savings they made in the course of their lifetime. Am I to believe that a recyclable turbine blade couldn't be created?
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