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I think Wisconsin has the best set up. You must first harvest a doe and bring her in before you can get a buck tag. I think if North GA went back to a 3-2 with this restriction that we would have an even better heard than we have now. I can't find one reason why this would be a problem. 5 deer is a lot of meat for any family. Hunting isn't a recreational sport set up to produce a years worth of groceries for 7 people. In South GA I think the current limit is fine right now. A 3-2 limit like we used to have along with a doe to get a buck tag in place would greatly benefit the North Ga deer herd. Hunters who have trouble noticing any rut activity or think it has passed or not happened yet more than likely have too many does. I have been there. When there are many more does than bucks then only a few does actually get bred in November. Then 28 days later some more get bred. Then 28 days later some more get bred along with healthy 1st year fawns. This is not good for the herd or the rut. When doe competition is high due to a balanced herd the bucks have a much fiercer competition. They will be on their feet much longer and they will be actively pursuing much longer. With too many does there is no need to wander much. You can lay up with one for days and then find another with ease. When does start getting bred in December, January, and sometimes February it really screws everything up. Predators such as coyotes have less targets each fawning month and can wipe out each months fawn crop easier than they could if the majority were born at once. On 500 acres if you had 4 fawns born a month for three months you might be looking at 90% fawn mortality. Any bucks born from February breeding will face an uphill battle due to summer drought reducing food sources needed. A doe for a buck system would insure that doe harvest happen early in the season which would provide a much better rut for hunters.
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Something needs to be done .Plus guys are just shooting anything they see that is brown. Look at the contest on GON. Guys shooting fawns and baby bucks such as 1.5 and 2 year olds but complain because they cant see a good size buck. I hear it all the time. We dont have good deer. Well there are good deer if you let them get age on them. I Have seen what kind of deer Georgia can produce and Im in a area that usually have small bucks but the guys around me are passing young bucks and letting them grow. I think something really needs to change such as small limits and more restrictions. Make people earn a buck tag wouldnt hurt my feelings and we need the same system kentucky has on calling in what you kill.
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people pursue hunting for different reasons. for some a NICE deer is one that puts food on the table. For others they want the biggest rack possible. A balance has to be found for all. One buck, two does with initial license purchase, then addtl doe tags can be purchased for those that truly need more in their freezer.
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I would simply not follow any ignorant "earn a buck" rule.
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I think Wisconsin has the best set up. You must first harvest a doe and bring her in before you can get a buck tag. I think if North GA went back to a 3-2 with this restriction that we would have an even better heard than we have now. I can't find one reason why this would be a problem. 5 deer is a lot of meat for any family. Hunting isn't a recreational sport set up to produce a years worth of groceries for 7 people. In South GA I think the current limit is fine right now. A 3-2 limit like we used to have along with a doe to get a buck tag in place would greatly benefit the North Ga deer herd. Hunters who have trouble noticing any rut activity or think it has passed or not happened yet more than likely have too many does. I have been there. When there are many more does than bucks then only a few does actually get bred in November. Then 28 days later some more get bred. Then 28 days later some more get bred along with healthy 1st year fawns. This is not good for the herd or the rut. When doe competition is high due to a balanced herd the bucks have a much fiercer competition. They will be on their feet much longer and they will be actively pursuing much longer. With too many does there is no need to wander much. You can lay up with one for days and then find another with ease. When does start getting bred in December, January, and sometimes February it really screws everything up. Predators such as coyotes have less targets each fawning month and can wipe out each months fawn crop easier than they could if the majority were born at once. On 500 acres if you had 4 fawns born a month for three months you might be looking at 90% fawn mortality. Any bucks born from February breeding will face an uphill battle due to summer drought reducing food sources needed. A doe for a buck system would insure that doe harvest happen early in the season which would provide a much better rut for hunters.
That is crazy, we ain't got no does. If anything up here they need to do away with all doe days and tags for this area and maybe a few will have fawns that will survive.
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I totally agree. They definitely need to get rid of the honor system and do a check in instead. I also like the idea of harvesting a doe before getting a buck tag.
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I can see now that this is going to get interesting, so I'll throw in my .02 while it is still fresh.

Backoff the doe days/tags/permits whatever on everything east of Hwy411 -I-75 and north of Hwy 20...use a check in system for any counties that are in the northern tier (on the top as we call it) 2 bucks and 2 or 3 does should be should be sufficent for any hunter in this general area. Maybe the buck regs could be the same. Mountain WMA hunts, such as Cohutta, Rich, Blue Ridge, etc.... could tweaked to reflect the same mentality. My mentality goes back to an almost 70's management practices that were common on Cohutta; quality bucks and limited doe harvest...Cohutta was a mecca for deer hunters in the 60's and 70's, with big antlered, big bodied, mature does and bucks as the norm.
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I`m not familiar with those mountain deer ya`ll got up there, and only hunted there once back in 1980. I know ya`ll have some good hard mast trees up there for winter feed, but what are the summer sources of feed ya`lls deer have?
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I hunted Russell WMA this morning. Was able to get a spike. Not many shots heard, did not see a doe. At 11am only 12 or so deer checked in.

At one time it was not uncommon to have 50+ deer checked in by noon.

I've only saw one doe this entire season and it was during bow season.

I'm beginning to wonder if blue tongue has broken out and killed them off.
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IMO the deer herd went to pot when you can fill one limit and print ya another one off. make the tags where u gotta go get them from the store and mark the deer again. when you print tags off line you can pick how many copys you want, we need to go back old school and get the herd built back up. i have been hunting for twenty years and only seen one buck chasing and he is on the wall. im just saying doe days need to come back because this free for all is not working so well.
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This might be good for your trophy hunters but the comment you made about 7 deer being enough groceries for a family is just not true... We usually have 4-6 deer in the freezer and it won't last past April.... We use it in any and all cooking instead of beef. I run a hunting club and use the basic GA laws as our guide lines and we have plenty of deer both bucks and does... The one rule that helps is that even though Ga allows 12 deer you can only kill 6 in our club the rest must be killed elsewhere.... keep your earn a buck idea I paid for that tag!!!!
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I don't know what part of North Ga that you hunt but on our family land we see as many bucks as we do does. Back in the 80's n 90's it wasn't unusal to see 10 to 15 does in a group and rarely a decent buck, then we got the green light to shoot more does....and we did. Now we don't see as many does but we see more bucks.
The earn a buck thing would be no big deal for me but I just don't see it happening any time soon.
Too many people are putting TOO MUCH emphasis on big antlers and not on herd vs land carrying capacity management. Shoot more coyotes!!
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Something needs to be done .Plus guys are just shooting anything they see that is brown. Look at the contest on GON. Guys shooting fawns and baby bucks such as 1.5 and 2 year olds but complain because they cant see a good size buck. I hear it all the time. We dont have good deer. Well there are good deer if you let them get age on them. I Have seen what kind of deer Georgia can produce and Im in a area that usually have small bucks but the guys around me are passing young bucks and letting them grow. I think something really needs to change such as small limits and more restrictions. Make people earn a buck tag wouldnt hurt my feelings and we need the same system kentucky has on calling in what you kill.
Agreed....It's like a battle to see who can kill the smallest deer in this year's contest.
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Just think if you whinned as much about how you could improve the habitat as you do about not seeing deer.


There'd be 20 doe tags and four buck tags on your license
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We see plenty of does on our land in Union co....limited # of does days though. But honestly I know most of the locals shoot what they want and it goes in the freezer.
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insurance companys are 1 main reason we have a 10 doe limit. thats it. hunters dont have as much say so as we would like to think about rules and regs. it takes to many years to get anything done with all the laws we have. yes i agree 100% about the 3does 2 bucks limit. will it change to that? probably not for a while. we keep getting more doe days every year. they still have either sex hunts on the mountain wmas where deer are almost non existant anyway. they did make a step in the right direction with only 3 doe days on national forest though. it will help some but not when 1 man shoots 5 does out of 1 spot at 1 time. seen that myself and couldnt belive it. he was from way down south. couldnt figure out why he felt the need to wipe out the entire deer population for that area. but it was legal
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typiacally all I see driving around here, and around the house is does, and spikes. I would rather see a doe limit 3, instead of doe days, but like stated above alot get shot no matter what time of year it is. Especially if there eating in a garden.
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I think Wisconsin has the best set up. You must first harvest a doe and bring her in before you can get a buck tag. I think if North GA went back to a 3-2 with this restriction that we would have an even better heard than we have now. I can't find one reason why this would be a problem. 5 deer is a lot of meat for any family. Hunting isn't a recreational sport set up to produce a years worth of groceries for 7 people. In South GA I think the current limit is fine right now. A 3-2 limit like we used to have along with a doe to get a buck tag in place would greatly benefit the North Ga deer herd. Hunters who have trouble noticing any rut activity or think it has passed or not happened yet more than likely have too many does. I have been there. When there are many more does than bucks then only a few does actually get bred in November. Then 28 days later some more get bred. Then 28 days later some more get bred along with healthy 1st year fawns. This is not good for the herd or the rut. When doe competition is high due to a balanced herd the bucks have a much fiercer competition. They will be on their feet much longer and they will be actively pursuing much longer. With too many does there is no need to wander much. You can lay up with one for days and then find another with ease. When does start getting bred in December, January, and sometimes February it really screws everything up. Predators such as coyotes have less targets each fawning month and can wipe out each months fawn crop easier than they could if the majority were born at once. On 500 acres if you had 4 fawns born a month for three months you might be looking at 90% fawn mortality. Any bucks born from February breeding will face an uphill battle due to summer drought reducing food sources needed. A doe for a buck system would insure that doe harvest happen early in the season which would provide a much better rut for hunters.
The "Earn a Buck" program was pretty much done away with last year in Wisconsin, it was very unpopular and didn't accomplish what it was intended to do. There may be some hunt units where it is still required, but it is not state wide. Hunters in Wisconsin have been moaning for 60 years about the over killing of does, even when there were very limited doe days available, even in the years when you could only kill a doe when there were 5 or more hunters in a camp. I was born and raised there and they complain nearly as much about the deer management as the hunters here in Georgia do.
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insurance companys are 1 main reason we have a 10 doe limit. thats it. hunters dont have as much say so as we would like to think about rules and regs. it takes to many years to get anything done with all the laws we have. yes i agree 100% about the 3does 2 bucks limit. will it change to that? probably not for a while. we keep getting more doe days every year. they still have either sex hunts on the mountain wmas where deer are almost non existant anyway. they did make a step in the right direction with only 3 doe days on national forest though. it will help some but not when 1 man shoots 5 does out of 1 spot at 1 time. seen that myself and couldnt belive it. he was from way down south. couldnt figure out why he felt the need to wipe out the entire deer population for that area. but it was legal
That is utter nonsense, there is no link to insurance companies and deer management objectives either here in Georgia or in any other state that I am aware of. States like Pennsylvania where you can drive the length of I80 and see at least 1 dead deer for every mile of its 320 mile length any day of the year doesn't have the doe days we have here in Georgia and they have more hunters, drivers, and overall population than we do.
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If the bag limit were dropped to 3 does and earn-a-buck implemented, doe harvest statewide would double or triple. Does anyone else not see the opposing objectives of combining these changes? I assume you mean to reduce doe harvest by reducing the bag limit, but earn-a-buck is a drastic tool to rapidly reduce a population.
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Let's just change the name from deer season to trophy buck season!!!!! You guys kill me with your ideals. "they shoot little bucks, nobody needs to shoot deer to feed their family, there aren't enough deer". (yet now you want a doe to die before shooting a buck?) It's really just a ploy to protect your precious young bucks so they can become trophies. It's Bee Ess. I'm done now. I'm going DEER HUNTING while it's still DEER SEASON!
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All this infighting I bet the ainti's reading this and I know they do are having a blast. Sure there's no one blanket rule to cover our entire state, the great state of Georgia is just to diversified. There's no rule as well that says the dnr can't split the reigons into smaller sectors and actually manage the deer herd that we do have. I see it over and over i'n here, "I don't know what part of north Georgia your from but here where I hunt" guess what folks there's a huge difference between habersham county Georgia Wilkes county Georgia and chattooga county Georgia the heards are as different as night and day but all are i'n north Georgia. So let's say we do have a bit smaller regions how many bucks how many does?? How do we decide this? Yes there's some places that do reach the carrying capacity but as of right now at least i'n the north east Georgia mountains area we are way below capacity and at this point I think even the dnr is starting to acknowledge the problem thus the three doe day on national forest rule. As for 12 deer limit I personally think if a family can eat more than 5 deer a year then there's got to be some children i'n the family old enough to hunt and get tags and what about mom??? Anything more than that is i'n my opinion just a blatant misuse of resources and a poor act of sportsmanship. Ladies and gentelman we sportsmen have been i'n the past stewards of the heard. My grandfather my father have done a good job they understood conservation since they knew what it was like not to have deer not to have turkeys not to have the opportunity that we all take for granted. Once again I ask you please to keep the debate open and strong but under no circumstances let these issues divide us. All it takes now is a few elected idiots to side with the aintis and we may be completely out of the decision making loop. I think we are on the right track and basically speaking each person i'n here knows what their area needs. Let's not let need be overtaken by greed. Thanks for reading this long winded post this issue is close to my heart as it is and should be for each and every one of us.
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Coastie; no there's no links between the two. But since game laws and bag limits have to pass through the Senate you cant tell me some money ain't involved in getting certain things passed. That's my opinion which ain't much. Look into how much deer collisions cost insurance companies in ga a year. A little cash under the table to certain people is a drop in the bucket to what they spend in repairs. If you can find it I guarantee you deer collisions have decreased since the limit went to 12.
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Yeah we can't be naive and believe that insurance companies don't have a major influence probably more influence than the dnr biologists on deer management i'n Georgia. The largest insurance company i'n Georgia the Georgia farm bureau, has a upper membership group that reads right out of our state house and senate. Think about it the dnr falls under the department of agriculture the greatest voice in agriculture i'n Georgia once again Georgia farm bureau. Ofcourse other insurance companies also have their lobbyists i'n the fray as well. Just my opinion but I wouldn't for a second think that insurance companies didnt have the major if not the deciding influence i'n the 12 deer a season limit. It is a no-brainer they are just protecting their bottom
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Yeah we can't be naive and believe that insurance companies don't have a major influence probably more influence than the dnr biologists on deer management i'n Georgia. The largest insurance company i'n Georgia the Georgia farm bureau, has a upper membership group that reads right out of our state house and senate. Think about it the dnr falls under the department of agriculture the greatest voice in agriculture i'n Georgia once again Georgia farm bureau. Ofcourse other insurance companies also have their lobbyists i'n the fray as well. Just my opinion but I wouldn't for a second think that insurance companies didnt have the major if not the deciding influence i'n the 12 deer a season limit. It is a no-brainer they are just protecting their bottom
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DNR doesn't fall under the Department of Agriculture, they are both separate "departments". I'm sure some insurance companys lobbied for increased bag limits at that time, but the general public (hunters and non-hunters) also wanted a decrease in the deer population.
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Ok dnr no longer falls under the dept of ag I thought it still did but that aside I still say if you believe that the general public including John q hunter had as much influence i'n the decision to increase the bag limit to 12 deer i'n Georgia as the insurance companies I believe you are much misinformed.
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If the bag limit were dropped to 3 does and earn-a-buck implemented, doe harvest statewide would double or triple. Does anyone else not see the opposing objectives of combining these changes? I assume you mean to reduce doe harvest by reducing the bag limit, but earn-a-buck is a drastic tool to rapidly reduce a population.
Even at any limit set, there would be not enough here and too much there...
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I say leave the bucks at two, or reduce it to one, then people will not waste their buck tag on a small one. I would also reduce the doe’s to five. This might add more thought before someone pulls the trigger and maybe let some of the deer get a little older before they are harvested.

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I say leave the bucks at two, or reduce it to one, then people will not waste their buck tag on a small one. I would also reduce the doeís to five. This might add more thought before someone pulls the trigger and maybe let some of the deer get a little older before they are harvested.

Just my thoughts not to offend anyone. Happy hunting.
They would just print out a dozen harvest records like they do now and keep on shooting.
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I was hoping most hunters were more ethical than that.
Most have no ethics. Just like the idiot that came in on me the other morning where I was hunting. I tried flashing him off with my light but he kept on coming. Told him I was hunting here, he said "I going about 200 yards on down." I told him "you'll be in my line of fire."

Anyway the pain of hunting public land. He spooked everything and didn't get a thing. I left him a good blood trail back out to where he parked beside me.
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Most have no ethics. Just like the idiot that came in on me the other morning where I was hunting. I tried flashing him off with my light but he kept on coming. Told him I was hunting here, he said "I going about 200 yards on down." I told him "you'll be in my line of fire."

Anyway the pain of hunting public land. He spooked everything and didn't get a thing. I left him a good blood trail back out to where he parked beside me.
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Ok dnr no longer falls under the dept of ag I thought it still did but that aside I still say if you believe that the general public including John q hunter had as much influence i'n the decision to increase the bag limit to 12 deer i'n Georgia as the insurance companies I believe you are much misinformed.
I think a few on this forum could vouch that I'm not misinformed about much regarding deer in Georgia. Take a look at the Georgia Deer Management Plan and review the survey data on what the general public thought about deer density at that point in time. I never made any reference to the level of influence, I just said that the general public and the insurance companies both wanted deer density lowered across much of the state.
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Maybe someone already posted this, but you have a major difference with season lengths.

Wisconsin has a very short (1 week?) rifle season.
We have a very generous season with very generous limits.

Georgia is so different everywhere. In my club the guys won't touch a doe, but they'll smoke a 6 point...and just call it a cull buck. This bugs me because they're killing every opportunity for a big buck. Ration needs to be between 1:1 and 1:2, along with an 8pt spread limit.

No prescription works for every county. And trust me, you don't want different regs for every county....try hunting Alaska and you'll see what a nightmare it is just trying to stay legal.
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This might be good for your trophy hunters but the comment you made about 7 deer being enough groceries for a family is just not true... We usually have 4-6 deer in the freezer and it won't last past April.... We use it in any and all cooking instead of beef. I run a hunting club and use the basic GA laws as our guide lines and we have plenty of deer both bucks and does... The one rule that helps is that even though Ga allows 12 deer you can only kill 6 in our club the rest must be killed elsewhere.... keep your earn a buck idea I paid for that tag!!!!
Hunting is not and has not ever been intended to be a means to take any and all resources available to feed your family for twelve months. Hunting is a right we have and a responsibility we have to conserve and protect our resources. Providing table fare for your family is not what conservation of this species is about. Nobody is "entitled" to take what belongs to all without regard for what is best for the species and everyone involved.
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Hunting is not and has not ever been intended to be a means to take any and all resources available to feed your family for twelve months. Hunting is a right we have and a responsibility we have to conserve and protect our resources. Providing table fare for your family is not what conservation of this species is about. Nobody is "entitled" to take what belongs to all without regard for what is best for the species and everyone involved.
Our rights as US citizens to feed ourselves how we wish as long as law is obeyed, would eat ground deer year round rather than ground beef with pink slime. wild turkey rather than storebought products fed out with hormone filled feed.I just don't kill enough deer to feed my family year round, I usually put 5-7 deer in the freezer, by April I'm usually out.Nothing wrong with one going to Gods grocery store,.If you have never known anyone that has to shoot wild game to feed their family, you dont know many folks too proud for government assistance, I know some who choose to make their own way without much money. sometimes they open season early or late, most turn their head, cause they know they need it, don't take food stamps.
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Our rights as US citizens to feed ourselves how we wish as long as law is obeyed, would eat ground deer year round rather than ground beef with pink slime. wild turkey rather than storebought products fed out with hormone filled feed.I just don't kill enough deer to feed my family year round, I usually put 5-7 deer in the freezer, by April I'm usually out.Nothing wrong with one going to Gods grocery store,.If you have never known anyone that has to shoot wild game to feed their family, you dont know many folks too proud for government assistance, I know some who choose to make their own way without much money. sometimes they open season early or late, most turn their head, cause they know they need it, don't take food stamps.

Don't get me wrong here. My family eats deer as well. But I would not rely on deer if it meant the detriment of the herd. Venison is great and yes I would take it over beef. I just wouldn't be selfish enough to take more than what was sustainable for everyone else. There are some people who would take what they want and not care if everyone else starved... deer herd be darned. If it meant the deer would be extinct they would do it anyway and feel it was their "right". I have never needed government to hold my hand. I have been on hard times in the past and I know many families who have lost everything. It sucks but it isn't anything hard work won't fix over time. If we want a better deer herd and a healthier deer herd then we as hunters must not depend on government to be stewards of our resources or we must get our government to set guidlines in place to preserve what we have. I guess all of the people wondering where the deer have gone know now. It appears from the responses that people are going to shoot whatever they want regardless of limited resources or limited number of deer. I really thought this would have turned into more of an intellegent conversation instead of responses from folks saying they are going to kill as much as they want to because they can.
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Don't get me wrong here. My family eats deer as well. But I would not rely on deer if it meant the detriment of the herd. Venison is great and yes I would take it over beef. I just wouldn't be selfish enough to take more than what was sustainable for everyone else. There are some people who would take what they want and not care if everyone else starved... deer herd be darned. If it meant the deer would be extinct they would do it anyway and feel it was their "right". I have never needed government to hold my hand. I have been on hard times in the past and I know many families who have lost everything. It sucks but it isn't anything hard work won't fix over time. If we want a better deer herd and a healthier deer herd then we as hunters must not depend on government to be stewards of our resources or we must get our government to set guidlines in place to preserve what we have. I guess all of the people wondering where the deer have gone know now. It appears from the responses that people are going to shoot whatever they want regardless of limited resources or limited number of deer. I really thought this would have turned into more of an intellegent conversation instead of responses from folks saying they are going to kill as much as they want to because they can.
We can all agree that if everyone liked hunting as much as we do one season would probably do the deer in forever.
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I`m not familiar with those mountain deer ya`ll got up there, and only hunted there once back in 1980. I know ya`ll have some good hard mast trees up there for winter feed, but what are the summer sources of feed ya`lls deer have?
Nic, while I am not in an area that is exclusive mountain habitat, even here in Walker and Catoosa counties, there is not an abundance of agriculture to serve as spring/summer browse. I am certain there are many other food items available but I have seen deer take advantage of the growth that you would expect: honeysuckle, blackberry, green-brier, summer grasses and weeds. I've seen them eat young maple leaves and sumac and they like kudzu (which, I hear is related to soybeans). Like anywhere else, they will hit folk's home gardens and landscape plantings, roses and various flowering annuals.

I have killed deer with privet in their stomachs, so I'm guessing they will eat that in summer as well.

It has been slim pickings for us up here as far as sightings go. During daylight hours, out of 23 hunts, I have seen a total of 12 deer. It is not important for me to kill one, after hunting for the past 42 years, I've been blessed better than I deserve, but it would be nice to see some when you are trying to introduce deer hunting to a new generation of young hunters. Young people tend to lose interest if they don't see the things they are hunting.

For the past few years, I see more deer during bow-season than in gun season. I believe they have made the adjustment and move more at night.

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Oh my I'm gonna get beat up by the eliteist 1st Hunting ain't a sport it's a way of Life somebody been watching too much T.V. I feel like if you hav'nt seen any does it your fault went this morning and between me and my partner we saw 7 in @ 2 hrs. this other person did'nt see any so I geuss all the does are gone if you talked to that 3rd person. I have them all the time at all different hours of the day on my trail cams.I hunt in Franklin Co. not really a Mecca for Deer.I also don't care what they do else where I have a hard time keeping up with the boys in Atl. I also don't believe there is such a thing as a Cull buck unless it's diseased. One more thing the tags ought to come back Good Luck to All no matter what Your reason for Hunting is enjoy the time respect the reason's other people Hunt that may be Hard for some
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I should have been more clear earlier. I should have worded it Northern Zone and not North GA. I have never hunted north GA. I hunt the Piedmont region.
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Shorten rifle season to 2 weeks in November
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What North Georgia needs is to do away with all doe days on NF land and go back to the December break we use to have. Open back up for one week at the end of December. Also cut back to only one or two doe days for the northern counties.
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What North Georgia needs is to do away with all doe days on NF land and go back to the December break we use to have. Open back up for one week at the end of December. Also cut back to only one or two doe days for the northern counties.
exactly ! its actually not too bad at WMAs in N. GA mountains, not many days of open season; but in redlands wma, it looks like someone wants all the deer gone.....its open for deer season almost the entire season (except the traditional December break), and all open days are either sex days
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Nic, while I am not in area that is exclusive mountain habitat, even here in Walker and Catoosa counties, there is not an abundance of agriculture to serve as spring/summer browse. I am certain there are many other food items available but I have seen deer take advantage of the growth that you would expect: honeysuckle, blackberry, green-brier, summer grasses and weeds. I've seen them eat young maple leaves and sumac and they like kudzu (which, I hear is related to soybeans). Like anywhere else, they will hit folk's home gardens and landscape plantings, roses and various flowering annuals.

I have killed deer with privet in their stomachs, so I'm guessing they will eat that in summer as well.

It has been slim pickings for us up here as far as sightings go. During daylight hours, out of 23 hunts, I have seen a total of 12 deer. It is not important for me to kill one, after hunting for the past 42 years, I've been blessed better than I deserve, but it would be nice to see some when you are trying to introduce deer hunting to a new generation of young hunters. Young people tend to lose interest if they don't see the things they are hunting.

For the past few years, I see more deer during bow-season than in gun season. I believe they have made the adjustment and move more at night.


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Coastie; no there's no links between the two. But since game laws and bag limits have to pass through the Senate you cant tell me some money ain't involved in getting certain things passed. That's my opinion which ain't much. Look into how much deer collisions cost insurance companies in ga a year. A little cash under the table to certain people is a drop in the bucket to what they spend in repairs. If you can find it I guarantee you deer collisions have decreased since the limit went to 12.
Since you asked....

Statewide in 2000
Total Number = 9,901
Rate = 9.6

Statewide in 2006
Total Number = 13,545
Rate = 12.2

Source: http://www.dot.state.ga.us/statistic...%20crashes.pdf

Decrease?...Really?.....
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As the economy worsens , I 'd expect the herd #s to plummet!
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