Anybody Ever Run Underwood or Buffalo Bore Defensive Ammo In A .380 LCP?

[Big7]

Been carrying Federal Hydra Shok just because that's all the premium defensive ammo I could find for a while now. Shot fine out of the gate.

So, had a FTF just racking the slide. Twice.
Been carrying in the front pocket so it might just need a good cleaning. That has never happened before.

Not at all convinced .380 ACP hollow points will do the job through denim, etc. either but haven't seen any ball in +P.
So, I was looking at Underwood and Buffalo Bore +P in the weight offerings I found in line.

Anybody ever ran them? Thoughts?

 

[menhadenman]

Not in a 380 but I use the buffalo bore +P in my G19 and their 357 offering in my GP100.

Works great but penetration is pretty insane (I use those when hunting in Rockies).

Just sharing that thought since I could see the potential for hitting unintended targets.

Another thought is you’ll want to make sure the LCP is good for handling the +p. I’m guessing so but worth checking.

Someone just posted a great deal on 380 from Midway, check that out too.

Good luck.

 

[doomtrpr_z71]

I run underwood in all my 380's

 

[bighonkinjeep]

I haven't fooled with the Buffalo Bore or Underwood because the Cor Bon 90gr JHPs have proven perfectly reliable in my G42 and because if past success with the brand.
I usually dont put a lot of faith in numbers on paper, but FBI spec tests of the CorBon 90gr jhp from a G42 at 10' show average 23.3" penetration through 4 layers of denim into ballistic gel. Shallowest was 16.5"
I dont second guess or doubt the Cor Bon as one of the most effective options one bit.

 

[Jester896]

I use the Corbon DPX185gr +P in my carry 1911

 

[Ruger#3]

I use the Corbon DPX185gr +P in my carry 1911

Use the same type ammo in .380 in a S&W Body Guard.

 

[Dub]

I don't .380.


I have used Underwood in various other calibers. Never had any trouble.

 

[Jester896]

I don't think an LCP is +P rated...not sure a Body Guard is either

 

[menhadenman]

I don't think an LCP is +P rated...not sure a Body Guard is either

I had one of the original LCPs in 380 but sold it. Buffalo Bore says go for it. Manual says no go. I might be inclined to call Ruger.

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[rosewood]

Looking at the Lucky Gunner ballistic gel test, I believe the Hornady Critical Defense is the best all around expander/penetrator in the .380 and the 38 special. That is what I carry in those 2 cartridges. In more powerful cartridges (9mm and up), I really don't see an advantage for Critical Defense over something like a Gold Dot or XTP.

Rosewood

 

[BriarPatch99]

DPX 80 grain Lead Free...

 

[ryanh487]

I believe it voids the Ruger warranty. I keep mine loaded with federal HST.

 

[notnksnemor]

The FTF's are not ammo related.
Don't know the technical terms of the parts, but on the back of the slide is a slot where the striker moves back and forth.
It will get pocket lint in it and interfere with the striker.
I take a toothpick and keep mine cleaned out.
I also carry staggered HP's and FMJ's just for the reason you mentioned.

 

[pjciii]

Keep mine loaded with Hornaday Critical Defense. Federal is in my ammo can. I have had problems with Speer Gold dot.

 

[Big7]

Evidently the .380 doesn't have a sammy rating.

Everything I've found, even from Ruger says NOT to shoot the so called 380+ P at the same time sammy says they do not exist.

Taurus has a "small" and a "micro" 380 offering.
I have 2 Taurus 9's. Full size G3 and a compact G2C. All Taurus firearms are +P rated. Might have to take a look at them.

 

[Jester896]

Evidently the .380 doesn't have a sammy rating.

Sure it does.

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I don't think you are looking for chamber drawing or case dimensions.

What you are probably looking for is the max chamber pressure and that is 21,500 for a .380.

there is no spec for +P ammo for a .380

 

[Dub]

Jumbo Shrimp.


Military Inellegence.


Hot Water Heater.


Flammable.....inflammable......non-inflammable.


Business ethics.


Plastic glass.


Semi-boneless ham.


Forward lateral.


.380 +P

 

[rosewood]

Jumbo Shrimp.


Military Inellegence.


Hot Water Heater.


Flammable.....inflammable......non-inflammable.


Business ethics.


Plastic glass.


Semi-boneless ham.


Forward lateral.


.380 +P

Same difference
honest democrat
It is what it is
reality show
scary accurate

 

[notnksnemor]

It's a decent "belly", "get off me" round.

 

[bighonkinjeep]

As a side note, I dont think I can recall info pertaining to cloth leather etc "stopping" hollowpoint ammo or causing early enough expansion to stop penetration. Most of the info Ive seen seems to indicate these materials may plug the nose cavity and cause HP to act like ball ammo and in some cases retard expansion while increasing penetration.
I've fired a lot of bullets over the decades into a lot of different stuff and the one thing I know for sure is the smallest of variables can cause unpredictable and sometimes surprising results , often its a lot easier to see what they've done than predict what they're gonna do.