Hunter922
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That 8 mill should make it easier to swallow that 6-6 record....Tennessee QB Nico Iamaleava who could start this year at Georgia or red got around 8 mil I believe.
That 8 mill should make it easier to swallow that 6-6 record....Tennessee QB Nico Iamaleava who could start this year at Georgia or red got around 8 mil I believe.
He's not going to start at Tennessee. So, you are saying the Voltards have at least 2 QB's that would start for the Dawgs?Tennessee QB Nico Iamaleava who could start this year at Georgia or red got around 8 mil I believe.
I think that is the dumbest thing you've ever posted.....which is saying something.Tennessee QB Nico Iamaleava who could start this year at Georgia or red got around 8 mil I believe.
There WAS a cap, they couldn't be paid, but the court said they couldn't do that because the kids own their NIL so they can market it however they choose. No one can regulate that. No different than your employer being able to tell you, you can't leave for somewhere else willing to pay you more for your services. And since the ONLY contract these kids have are with Sports Marketing/Management firms/agents and THAT is who they are beholden to, NOT the team/school.Not against NIL, but I wish it had been regulated. The OG argument is the poor kids couldn't afford a pizza on Friday night or gas money. If there was a cap (which would serve the purpose of NIL) of $100K per athlete it would slow down the insanity that has become of college football.
That's the problem. Try convincing me this won't lead to hurt feelings from other players. Left tackle is making $150K NIL, the right tackle is making $50K, and the WR that caught the TD pass is making $15K, but the WR that made a block down field so he can score is making $350K. Sounds harmonious, but some players are going to be sour and feel they've been given a raw deal. It's human nature. Especially if you are a 3* out playing a 5* on the team and making 10% what the "bigger name" player is making. At least at work, nobody is supposed to know what your co-worker is getting paid. In this league...it's pretty public knowledge.There WAS a cap, they couldn't be paid, but the court said they couldn't do that because the kids own their NIL so they can market it however they choose. No one can regulate that. No different than your employer being able to tell you, you can't leave for somewhere else willing to pay you more for your services. And since the ONLY contract these kids have are with Sports Marketing/Management firms/agents and THAT is who they are beholden to, NOT the team/school.
Title IX ties the schools hands so there is nothing they can do.
Your guess is as good as mine and it will be fleshed out.They will operate under a licensing agreement with the University, but will not be regulated by Title 9 etc. At that point the leagues will set up rules to keep the teams competitive and thus profitable.
And this was all pointed out by some of us before this all ever started.That's the problem. Try convincing me this won't lead to hurt feelings from other players. Left tackle is making $150K NIL, the right tackle is making $50K, and the WR that caught the TD pass is making $15K, but the WR that made a block down field so he can score is making $350K. Sounds harmonious, but some players are going to be sour and feel they've been given a raw deal. It's human nature. Especially if you are a 3* out playing a 5* on the team and making 10% what the "bigger name" player is making. At least at work, nobody is supposed to know what your co-worker is getting paid. In this league...it's pretty public knowledge.
A) Most of us would love to have and been GRATEFUL if a major university came to us or a family member and said "Sir/Ma'am, we'd love it if you, your child, etc came and played a game they love for us and we will in turn give them a 4/5/6yr degree for it". If you or they FAILED on YOUR/THEIR part to take full advantage of that, that's not the Universities problem.This thing is still a few cycles away from getting sorted out, but at least now everyone recognizes that big time college athletics is not an amateur sport and the talent is worth million$$$ not the approximately $40K per year (scholarship + room&board) that the NCAA was limiting players to.
The next step will be to separate some of athletic programs (Football) from the University proper. They will operate under a licensing agreement with the University, but will not be regulated by Title 9 etc. At that point the leagues will set up rules to keep the teams competitive and thus profitable.
The end product won't look much different to the fans, but I think the competition level will actually be better with more players staying on the team for 4 or 5 years and very few players transferring or jumping to the NFL due to contract obligations.
I tend to agree, when your relationship with the school is a licensing agreement the boosters will fade away.A) Most of us would love to have and been GRATEFUL if a major university came to us or a family member and said "Sir/Ma'am, we'd love it if you, your child, etc came and played a game they love for us and we will in turn give them a 4/5/6yr degree for it". If you or they FAILED on YOUR/THEIR part to take full advantage of that, that's not the Universities problem.
B) Once separated from the school is when the problems are going to get worse. These kids are seeing this support MAINLY because the "private" sponsors support the SCHOOL not the team/player. Once the team is the schools in name only I doubt that many of them will continue to support them and if they do I doubt they will at the levels they currently are. Many college football fans are not fans of pro ball and that is what it will be at this point, and the same reason ALL past "NFL Lite" endeavors have failed no matter who, how, what, when, where or why they have done the same or different.
Despite your past arguments that this would work, you are now admitting its failure and the destruction of the sport as we know and loved it. Maybe you'll keep on supporting "your" team even after they are "your" schools in name only but many won't. If we wanted NFL Lite we'd watch the CFL or XFL or AFL or whatever other leagues there are out there playing when the NFL are not, but we're not and so is nobody else. If these kids want a payday, let them go join one of those leagues, otherwise accept the terms as offered , take ADVANTAGE of ALL that is offered and be THANKFUL for it.
Great post. When the teams stop representing the schools the fan support will drop, and the other sports will suffer.A) Most of us would love to have and been GRATEFUL if a major university came to us or a family member and said "Sir/Ma'am, we'd love it if you, your child, etc came and played a game they love for us and we will in turn give them a 4/5/6yr degree for it". If you or they FAILED on YOUR/THEIR part to take full advantage of that, that's not the Universities problem.
B) Once separated from the school is when the problems are going to get worse. These kids are seeing this support MAINLY because the "private" sponsors support the SCHOOL not the team/player. Once the team is the schools in name only I doubt that many of them will continue to support them and if they do I doubt they will at the levels they currently are. Many college football fans are not fans of pro ball and that is what it will be at this point, and the same reason ALL past "NFL Lite" endeavors have failed no matter who, how, what, when, where or why they have done the same or different.
Despite your past arguments that this would work, you are now admitting its failure and the destruction of the sport as we know and loved it. Maybe you'll keep on supporting "your" team even after they are "your" schools in name only but many won't. If we wanted NFL Lite we'd watch the CFL or XFL or AFL or whatever other leagues there are out there playing when the NFL are not, but we're not and so is nobody else. If these kids want a payday, let them go join one of those leagues, otherwise accept the terms as offered , take ADVANTAGE of ALL that is offered and be THANKFUL for it.
If my talents were worth $40 - 60K year it would be reasonable, but if my talents are worth over a million on the free market then it's not.I'm still hung up on why an offer of a free education ($40-60k year, and untaxed) isn't considered a reasonable compensation for a 18-19-20 YO to play football.
Yes, some of them are worth a lot more. But where would they be if not for the work of some of their highly anonymous, and lessor valued, teammates?
And I predict that in 5-10 years, this change will be filed in the 'be careful what you wish for' file.
A: None of us would be grateful if we had a million dollar talent and could only be compensated $40K for it. OK a few of y'all might that don't understand capitalism.A) Most of us would love to have and been GRATEFUL if a major university came to us or a family member and said "Sir/Ma'am, we'd love it if you, your child, etc came and played a game they love for us and we will in turn give them a 4/5/6yr degree for it". If you or they FAILED on YOUR/THEIR part to take full advantage of that, that's not the Universities problem.
B) Once separated from the school is when the problems are going to get worse. These kids are seeing this support MAINLY because the "private" sponsors support the SCHOOL not the team/player. Once the team is the schools in name only I doubt that many of them will continue to support them and if they do I doubt they will at the levels they currently are. Many college football fans are not fans of pro ball and that is what it will be at this point, and the same reason ALL past "NFL Lite" endeavors have failed no matter who, how, what, when, where or why they have done the same or different.
Despite your past arguments that this would work, you are now admitting its failure and the destruction of the sport as we know and loved it. Maybe you'll keep on supporting "your" team even after they are "your" schools in name only but many won't. If we wanted NFL Lite we'd watch the CFL or XFL or AFL or whatever other leagues there are out there playing when the NFL are not, but we're not and so is nobody else. If these kids want a payday, let them go join one of those leagues, otherwise accept the terms as offered , take ADVANTAGE of ALL that is offered and be THANKFUL for it.
And why is that? The same as always. SEX SELLS!!!!!!! They are doing nothing different than they could/would do otherwise, selling "provocative" pictures/videos and pervs are paying for it.BTW some of the highest earners are Women Gymnasts and Basketball players. I love the free market.
A: None of us would be grateful if we had a million dollar talent and could only be compensated $40K for it. OK a few of y'all might that don't understand capitalism.
I understand what you're saying....but... The NFL won't draft a player until 3 years removed from HS. The University is the catapult to the million dollar payout. Most people with million dollar talent still have to start low and earn that million dollar bank roll.
And for the record. I don't believe ANY 18 year old is worth a mill without at least showing out on the field first.