I think one thing that isn't being mentioned is availability of ammo. 45-70 is going to put a ding in your bank account, if you can even find it. You may decide to roll your own, which would help somewhat.
CVA did make the 35 Rem years ago, but it is no longer available and I have only ever seen one in person and I hunt with it. Never seen a 30-30, but H&R did make one of those. Also difficult to find.Do they make and would you be interested in a 30-30 or .35 Rem.?
They would both be more powerful than the 300 Blackout. Less recoil than the 45-70. The Creedmoor uses slower burning powders that may not get a chance to completely burn in the shorter barrel. That would lead to more muzzle flash and a fair amount of velocity loss.
I have 2 of the Hunters in 7mm-08. Bought the second recently with the intent to cut it down to 16.25" just for the purposed the OP mentioned. Haven't ordered the pilot for my crowning tool yet, but it is in my basket at Brownells. I really want another 35 to cut down, but doubt I will ever find one. Hate to cut the 20" one down I have as it shoots so well.I know not one of the calibers you mentioned but i got the boy a 7mm-08 scout and he and i both love the gun. Very small and compact and its very accurate and drops them in the spot.
Henry makes a single shot 30-30, but the OP was talking about the CVA. It just seemed like they might.They did make the 35 Rem years ago, but it is no longer available and I have only ever seen one in person and I hunt with it. Never seen a 30-30, but H&R did make one of those. Also difficult to find.
Rosewood
I wish CVA would make the 30-30, but I have been a CVA fan for about 10 years since the Hunters first hit the market and have never seen the 30-30 listed on their webpage or in the stores. I also wished they would make one in 357 Mag. They made a pistol version but never rifle. I want to ream the mag to a 357 Max. I emailed and asked about it and they said they had no plans to do so. Now we are stuck with the Legend.Henry makes a single shot 30-30, but the OP was talking about the CVA. It just seemed like they might.
That’s the thing, being “Run & Gun” I bet 85% of the time I’d need it for 0-150 yards...Wondering the length of shots you will be making. The blackout
would work relatively close and well placed, 45-70 good to 150 yards,
havent shot a creed but figure it close to a 308. Normally handgun hunt
and have used the Blackout and 45-70 both with 14 inch barrels, they work
for me up the 100 yard range. Fav caliber around here, for me, is a 7-08 in rifle caliber. If I do grab a rifle, normally an Encore or Ruger no.1 but have
had in the past excellent fun with a CVA scout.
Buffalo Bore Ammo is $108 per 20 for their Magnum pills..I think one thing that isn't being mentioned is availability of ammo. 45-70 is going to put a ding in your bank account, if you can even find it. You may decide to roll your own, which would help somewhat.
Please remove the picture of that rifle. You are flinging a terrible craving on me!I like my short .300BLK and it works. 16.5" and threaded from the factory.View attachment 1205738
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Crazy. If you shoot 45-70, unless money is no object to you, you really need to roll your own and casting your own helps even more.Buffalo Bore Ammo is $108 per 20 for their Magnum pills..
Unfortunately it’s getting that way across the board. Better roll your own or roll out a wad of cashCrazy. If you shoot 45-70, unless money is no object to you, you really need to roll your own and casting your own helps even more.
It probably cost me about 40 cent per round to load myself at current component prices, of course with used brass.
Rosewood
I felt like it hit the jackpot back in the fall when I ran across 45-70 Leverevolution's for ~$40 a box.Buffalo Bore Ammo is $108 per 20 for their Magnum pills..
Please remove the picture of that rifle. You are flinging a terrible craving on me!
"I do not need another rifle, I do not need another rifle, I do not need another rifle....."
I mounted a scope for a guy a few weeks ago that had an EAB Custom in 6.5MB...kinda made me want one...maybe 6 ARCEncores have sky rocketed in price lately. I'd like a scout in 300 aac for my suppressor one day.
On an Encore? I sold my Encore a little while back with the 7mm-08 barrel and no scope for $1500 plus shipping. I posted it for sale on another site and it sold in a day for my asking price. I had $400 in it, traded a cheap 12 gauge over under turkish made 13 or 14 years ago. I'm buying a 7mm-08 x bolt I believe next for all this 7mm-08 ammo I've got. I couldn't resist the monies for it.I mounted a scope for a guy a few weeks ago that had an EAB Custom in 6.5MB...kinda made me want one...maybe 6 ARC
Yes, They are up in price a little but still a good deal.Probably shouldn't tell you it only cost me $225 brand new...
150 years and going strong! She is a dandy!45-70 alive and working for over 100 years, it must me good.