The Big Bang, not a single point in time.

ambush80

Senior Member
"So we may never know for certain where the Universe came from."

That's not good enough. How am I supposed to live not knowing how I got here, what is my purpose and will I live forever?

No, Sir. That is simply not good enough

It's Turtles all the way down.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
What kind of Turtles?
Lolol
 

ambush80

Senior Member


Turtles All the Way Down
Sturgill Simpson
I've seen Jesus play with flames in a lake of fire that I was standing in
Met the devil in Seattle and spent 9 months inside the lions den
Met Buddha yet another time and he showed me a glowing light within
But I swear that God is there every time I glare in the eyes of my best friend
Says my son it's all been done and someday yer gonna wake up old and gray
So go and try to have some fun showing warmth to everyone
You meet and greet and cheat along the way
There's a gateway in our mind that leads somewhere out there far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light cut you open and pull out all your pain
Tell me how you make illegal something that we all make in our brain
Some say you might go crazy but then again it might make you go sane
Every time I take a look inside inside that old and fabled book
I'm blinded and reminded of the pain caused by some old man in the sky
Marijuana, LSD, Psilocybin, and DMT
They all changed the way I see
But love's the only thing that ever saved my life
So don't waste your mind on nursery rhymes
Or fairy tales of blood and wine
It's turtles all the way down the line
So to each their own til' we go home
To other realms our souls must roam
To and through the myth that we all call space and time


Songwriters: Sturgill Simpson
Turtles All the Way Down lyrics © Downtown Music Publishing
 

blondiega1

Senior Member
No, Sir.

It's Turtles.

All the way down.

"See the Turtle of Enormous Girth"
"On his shell he holds the Earth."
"His thought is slow, but always kind."
"He holds us all within his mind."
"On his back all vows are made;"
"He sees the truth but mayn't aid."
"He loves the land and loves the sea,"
"And even loves a child like me."


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ambush80

Senior Member
"See the Turtle of Enormous Girth"
"On his shell he holds the Earth."
"His thought is slow, but always kind."
"He holds us all within his mind."
"On his back all vows are made;"
"He sees the truth but mayn't aid."
"He loves the land and loves the sea,"
"And even loves a child like me."


.

That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.
 

ambush80

Senior Member
"Behold the Turtle just and fair
Controls the moves of dust and air
He promised life that's everlasting
A Turtle's gift just for the asking
With only one requirement
On bended knee you must repent
Proclaim the Turtle Sovereign Lord
Or get sent straight to He11."

Sorry. I'm no poetry surgeon.
 
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SemperFiDawg

Political Forum Arbiter of Truth (And Lies Too)
The Big Bang doesn’t exist and it never existed, nor do cosmologists believe it to have existed. The Big Bang is a point in time defined by a mathematical extrapolation.

And since we allllllll know the fallacy of extrapolating using mathematics of all things............

Talk about cutting off the limb you're standing on. Many don't have the faith to be an Atheist. I don't have the intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy.
 

ambush80

Senior Member
And since we allllllll know the fallacy of extrapolating using mathematics of all things............

Talk about cutting off the limb you're standing on. Many don't have the faith to be an Atheist. I don't have the intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy.

Do you know how they calculated the time of the Big Bang?

Would you like me to tell you?

They counted back from the generations of Adam's through Noah's and Abraham's descendants, adjusting for lifespans of individuals who lived to 800-1000 years old as recorded in the Bible (plus the six days it took to make the Earth).

That's some math right there, Y'all.
 
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WaltL1

Senior Member
And since we allllllll know the fallacy of extrapolating using mathematics of all things............

Talk about cutting off the limb you're standing on. Many don't have the faith to be an Atheist. I don't have the intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy.
I don't have the intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy
You use this "intellectual dishonesty" claim CONSTANTLY and it's obvious you don't know what it means. If you did, you wouldn't claim that "you don't have it".
 

WaltL1

Senior Member


"I don't think about things I don't think about."
Its interesting how the use of logic is immediately interpreted as to be "trying destroy the belief in God".
Not much has changed.
 

ambush80

Senior Member
Its interesting how the use of logic is immediately interpreted as to be "trying destroy the belief in God".
Not much has changed.

The Bible sets itself up as beyond the reproach of intellectual discussion. Imagine if someone came up with a mathematical proof or a new law of Physics and told everyone that they couldn't understand it with their carnal mind. Imagine if your doctor or mechanic told you something like that. Well, it might work if your doctor is a witch doctor.
 

drippin' rock

Senior Member
One thing science has in common with religion. It is controlled by egos. I'd love to see science tagged with "Proven until further notice". Even with all its errors, I'll take it over fairy tales all week and twice on Sunday.
 

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