Thanks for the response. If I went that root I’d probably go to the .35 whelen and be done with it. I don’t have to worry about kids getting access . All brass and ammo is labeled in my stores. I know what you mean as I’ve worked 50 years in my trade. I still try to simply and save a buck when I can.I’d consider a 30-06 with 180 grain bonded/ copper bullets before getting into 35 caliber for the purposes you’re listing to compliment the .308. This advice is coming from someone who could care less about having oddballs because I’ve worked for over 30 years to enjoy life and have a few toys. Do what makes you happy responsibly before you can’t. I sure wouldn’t have 35 caliber bullets stuffed into .308 cases if anyone else could get their hands on them (grandkids that aren’t firearms experts after I die). I pulled down my 8x57 made from .270 brass for this reason a few years ago.