Extended deer season bill?

KyDawg

Gone But Not Forgotten
What will this do to the small game hunter. If they continue to extend it, they will virtually take away most of the small game season.
 

shdw633

Senior Member
Since that was slated toward someone who was crying about non residence only having to paying 47 dollars to fish in Florida compared to hunting here, well , you do count on us way more than we do you. Think about it. If you can't figure it out, then you really have no clue why you do not pay state income tax.

It's not license revenue from out of staters that keep us from paying state income taxes, it's the mouse house, casino gambling, Sea World, Universal, other theme parks around Florida, and vacation revenue in general that keeps us from paying state income tax. Dont get me wrong, your hotel stays are part of that money, but if Georgians suddenly boycotted fishing Florida, then I still would not have to pay state income tax, as we cater to the world down here, fishing included, not just to Georgia. Not sure what would happen to Georgia wildlife programs if out of staters suddenly decided to boycott hunting in your state but if nearly 50% of the licensing revenue suddenly disappeared I'm pretty sure that would hurt, let alone what business's might suffer economically as well.
 

elfiii

Admin
Staff member
All kidding aside most hunters don't shoot that many but a 12 doe bag limit does give off the perception there are pleny of does.

It "gives off" that perception to the stupid people who don't read any further than the bag limit.;)
 

cathooker

Senior Member
Needs to close after Thanksgiving like it used to.
Change the dates totally for the way down south folks that their rut is in late Dec or Jan.

By doing that you are denying me the chance to hunt the rut in my area. Please do a little research before making such statements.
 

Bob Wallace

Senior Member
As an out of state hunter, I'm fine with paying the license fees right now. I just wish season started a little later when it is cooler and end a little later. I get all the hot weather hunting I can stand down here. Our rut is in July. HOT.
As far as killing everything I see, that's not the case at all. I killed one deer last year. One the year before that. None the year before that. I hunt family land. A lot of time and money goes into it. We have our own rules. No does during the peak and mature 8s or better except for the kids.
I believe the tag limits are too high. 2 doe and 2 bucks would feed a family for quite a while.
 

Dustin

Senior Member
By doing that you are denying me the chance to hunt the rut in my area. Please do a little research before making such statements.

Dang... that January rut already moved all the way up to Chattooga as well now? I hope ours does that, being one county north of you and our rut still being in early November is an amazing difference.

It would be for the best if it did, then we could open deer season Nov. 18 and just have the same season as Alabama, since everyone has a Dec. and Jan. rut now we don't need to hunt in Nov. anymore.
 

Buckman18

Senior Member
I'm glad the State has extended the season, and glad we have the long, liberal season we do, and that they don't base these decisions on a few disenchanted forum posters who nag like a bunch of old women worrying how and when everyone else hunts.

If you hunt in this State, with the variety of hunting opportunity we have, the high number of deer that we have, and can't find a way to have a quality experience you are truly in sad shape.
 

8pointduck

Senior Member
It's not license revenue from out of staters that keep us from paying state income taxes, it's the mouse house, casino gambling, Sea World, Universal, other theme parks around Florida, and vacation revenue in general that keeps us from paying state income tax. Dont get me wrong, your hotel stays are part of that money, but if Georgians suddenly boycotted fishing Florida, then I still would not have to pay state income tax, as we cater to the world down here, fishing included, not just to Georgia. Not sure what would happen to Georgia wildlife programs if out of staters suddenly decided to boycott hunting in your state but if nearly 50% of the licensing revenue suddenly disappeared I'm pretty sure that would hurt, let alone what business's might suffer economically as well.
Your kidding. You mean you do know? Well I guess you think we just come to fish and we don't stay at these hotel/condos. Or eat at the restaurants or go to all these other places you so readily posted. I was not talking about fishing license revenue at all.
 

Bob Wallace

Senior Member
Your kidding. You mean you do know? Well I guess you think we just come to fish and we don't stay at these hotel/condos. Or eat at the restaurants or go to all these other places you so readily posted. I was not talking about fishing license revenue at all.

I agree license fees have very little impact on total revenue from visitors to FL. There are many many other reasons to come here and we didn't have state taxes long before some GA folks started coming down regularly.
Fact is, revenue from GA residents is so minuscule it's not worth mentioning when speaking about FL economy.
I'd bet GA makes more profit from people just passing through to come to FL than FL makes on all GA visitors every year.
In other words, FL has a lot less to lose than GA does when it comes to two states competing.
I'm all for FL putting $350 fees on a year long out of state fishing license. Then additional stamp taxes for scallops, tarpon, redfish, snook, wahoo, etc.
if you want it, you'll pay it (sound familiar?). If not, no big deal really to FLs economy.
 

8pointduck

Senior Member
I agree license fees have very little impact on total revenue from visitors to FL. There are many many other reasons to come here and we didn't have state taxes long before some GA folks started coming down regularly.
Fact is, revenue from GA residents is so minuscule it's not worth mentioning when speaking about FL economy.
I'd bet GA makes more profit from people just passing through to come to FL than FL makes on all GA visitors every year.
In other words, FL has a lot less to lose than GA does when it comes to two states competing.
I'm all for FL putting $350 fees on a year long out of state fishing license. Then additional stamp taxes for scallops, tarpon, redfish, snook, wahoo, etc.
if you want it, you'll pay it (sound familiar?). If not, no big deal really to FLs economy.

And how would you know that we gain this all profitable revenue when there are more visitors to Florida each summer from southern states than any other? And as for your 350 dollar price tag on non residence, what is the ratio of non resident yearly fishing license sales compared to the same for hunting here? Yeah and for your tax stamp comment, I know some charter captains who would just love that. Most , if not 99% of anyone who fishes in Florida water, fresh or salt, only do it for one to three days. Most while with the family on vacation. Paying many more dollars than going to a grocery store, then to hunting camp. And, please! Georgia vacationers are miniscule to Florida? I was a resident in a tourist town for many years in Florida, so lets don't go there. Lets look at the numbers in Florida Fish compared to Georgia, Alabama, or South Carolina deer combined. There is no comparison. I posted before that a bass can lay thousands of eggs a year and will usually have ten to survive to adult age. A deer may have two here and be lucky if one survives. Get out on the ocean and you can go as far as the eye can see. As opposed to land that we have to just about fight for if we want to keep it. I have been on land that some Florida boys tried to take from us. The land owner ,thank goodness, liked us and would not here of it. So if you wonder why we have such a bad taste in our mouths about non resident hunters, there you go. I am not saying everyone out of Florida does that, I have plenty of family living there, but it does cause trust issues. Now posting all this, I am not trying to be controversial , a jerk, or hateful. I am not trying to debate either.
 

Mexican Squealer

Senior Member
I enjoy fishing in Florida but catch all the fish you mention (except
Snook) on a fairly regular basis right here in the great State of Georgia. You can have Florida and Floridiots when it comes down to it.
 

Son

Gone But Not Forgotten
Our club has it's own limit. It's called management. Two bucks, two does per paid membership. Helps us have deer to hunt every season. Also helps those who hunt around our boundary, where they probably don't manage. That's works, no matter how long the season is. No limit on hogs year round.
 

pottydoc

Senior Member
What a tremendous political and business advantage it is to collect revenue from folks who aren't voters or stakeholders. Let's bump it on up to 75%. Just for fun.

If they stop coming and land demand goes down, that would not be a bad thing. If they keep coming, and pay, more money is not a bad thing.

Florida and Tennessee do the same thing to me when I visit them through their sales tax (the residents of those states have no state income tax. Smart.).
Your sales tax argument doesn't hold water. OOS folks pay sales tax on everything they buy in Ga, at the same rare Floridas is. Nice try, though.
 
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