Classifieds Ammo Pricing?

Buddrow

Member
Just because folks are selling for high prices doesn't mean folks are buying. I was/am selling some HST for a decent price. No bites. Well what I consider decent compared to gunbroker or what ive found on google.
 

gunnurse

Senior Member
If someone is willing to pay it, then great. It is supply and demand. That is capitalism.

These people that do nothing but arbitrage products like ammo, Xboxes (going for anywhere from 1.25-2.X cost right now), and hand sanitizer (during the start of the pandemic) in my opinion are just tools, and are driving the cost up for the rest of us.

I'm sure some of them have inside channels to get ammo too...makes me want to kneecap them...

I just hope when they go to the emergency room that the attendant asks them what they are willing to pay to see the ER doc...

During the beginnings of the plandemic, two brothers went around two states and bought up all of the bottles of hand sanitizers that Dollar Tree had. The State of Tennessee tried to prosecute them for trying to sell them for $5.00/bottle. Yet, the State of Tennessee looked the other way when retailers around the state priced the same size bottles at $9.99/bottle. They were “kind enough” to donate the entire remaining stock to “charity.”

If you don’t like capitalism, too bad. Make a law that everyone HAS to sell any home that they have lived in for less than what they bought it for. It is used, after all. If you don’t like what I charge for the widgets that I make, go widget-less. But, don’t condemn me for not being able to buy my Wonderful Widgets because you chose to take the “high road” and sell your home at a net loss. And besides, you sometimes have to see an ER doc. Nobody has ever nor will ever die from not having a solid supply of widgets.
 

Tight Lines

Senior Member
During the beginnings of the plandemic, two brothers went around two states and bought up all of the bottles of hand sanitizers that Dollar Tree had. The State of Tennessee tried to prosecute them for trying to sell them for $5.00/bottle. Yet, the State of Tennessee looked the other way when retailers around the state priced the same size bottles at $9.99/bottle. They were “kind enough” to donate the entire remaining stock to “charity.”

If you don’t like capitalism, too bad. Make a law that everyone HAS to sell any home that they have lived in for less than what they bought it for. It is used, after all. If you don’t like what I charge for the widgets that I make, go widget-less. But, don’t condemn me for not being able to buy my Wonderful Widgets because you chose to take the “high road” and sell your home at a net loss. And besides, you sometimes have to see an ER doc. Nobody has ever nor will ever die from not having a solid supply of widgets.

Totally missed my point. I am the most capitalistic person you'll ever meet. I've started and run several companies...I know what capitalism is and how to compete.

And I don't have an issue with people making money, and if they can get someone to buy it, great, good for them, bad for the buyer, maybe.

What I despise are the traders, the arbitragers, the people whose sole goal is to buy low and sell high, without adding any value, because they can.

Your examples are nonsensical...I will sell my house for exactly what the market will bear and what the appraisers say it is worth.

The difference here is that demand is off the charts, and the more the demand increases, the more the prices go up...so the arbitragers are actually driving the prices up and then benefiting from them going up...all while adding no value. The problem is, and precisely why the arbitragers are doing this, there is no alternative. There is no steady supply of ammunition at reasonable prices. If there were, then all of the capitalism discussions hold water...

Now, if someone wants to unload some here and there from their stash, then so be it...that isn't who I am talking about...

It's the same thing with plywood, generators, fuel tanks, etc. when there is a hurricane...and why there are anti-gouging laws...

There will never be anti-gouging laws for ammo though... :)
 

mguthrie

**# 1 Fan**OHIO STATE**
What I despise are the traders, the arbitragers, the people whose sole goal is to buy low and sell high, without adding any value, because they can.
I guess you don’t invest in stocks? My sole goal is to buy low and sell high without adding any value. Should I sell my silver for $18/ounce,average price paid, or would it be wrong of me to sell it for the $27/ounce that it’s worth?
 
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Railroader

Billy’s Security Guard.
Just sitting on the pile that I began building when Slick Willie was da prez, and watching the insanity unfold...:pop:
 

Milkman

Deer Farmer Moderator
Staff member
Should I sell a house I built in 1988 for what it cost me to build??
Naaaa I would ask market price I think.
 

tr21

Senior Member
Your examples are nonsensical...I will sell my house for exactly what the market will bear and what the appraisers say it is worth.

The difference here is that demand is off the charts, and the more the demand increases, the more the prices go up...so the arbitragers are actually driving the prices up and then benefiting from them going up...all while adding no value. The problem is, and precisely why the arbitragers are doing this, there is no alternative. There is no steady supply of ammunition at reasonable prices. If there were, then all of the capitalism discussions hold water...
so your the reason for the collapse of the housing market ! i'm sure your house is so great that it's going to add value to the market when you sell it. and i'm sure if there is a bidding war among the buyers, your not going to sell higher than what it appraised for are you ?
 

tr21

Senior Member
I guess you don’t invest in stocks? My sole goal is to buy low and sell high without adding any value. Should I sell my silver for $18/ounce,average price paid, or would it be wrong of me to sell it for the $27/ounce that it’s worth?
i'd sell it for $30 if someone will give it to me !!!! but i'm deplorable like that !
 

NCHillbilly

Administrator
Staff member
Should I sell a house I built in 1988 for what it cost me to build??
Naaaa I would ask market price I think.
I don't think that's quite the same as running out to Walmart every morning and buying up every brick of .22 shells they have for $18, then taking them straight to the gun show and selling them for $100.

But, as long as people keep paying outrageous prices for ammo, the prices will stay outrageous. When folks refuse to pay the high prices and realize that they don't have to own every box of shells they see in the store, the price will come down.
 

mguthrie

**# 1 Fan**OHIO STATE**
I don't think that's quite the same as running out to Walmart every morning and buying up every brick of .22 shells they have for $18, then taking them straight to the gun show and selling them for $100.

But, as long as people keep paying outrageous prices for ammo, the prices will stay outrageous. When folks refuse to pay the high prices and realize that they don't have to own every box of shells they see in the store, the price will come down.
Gunbroker is mostly auctions. People are CHOOSING to pay those prices. Until that stops nothing will change.
 

Hillbilly stalker

Senior Member
This is what has been wrong with America for awhile now. Me Me Me !!! When you care more about your wallet and bank account getting fat then your neighbors, we suffer as a group. Nothing wrong with saving up some ammo for a rainy day or your grandkids. Going to the store and raping the shelves of any caliber available is disgraceful. Buying everything available on line with the intent of jacking up the prices and putting the screws to other sportsmen and hunters is deplorable. I hope they choke in it. I don’t usually talk like that, but that junk really gets my goat. GREED !!!
 

NCHillbilly

Administrator
Staff member
Gunbroker is mostly auctions. People are CHOOSING to pay those prices. Until that stops nothing will change.
One main problem is that people now think they absolutely have to buy every single box of ammo that they see, no matter the price. Just because it's there. Or nevermind that they already have 5,000,000 rounds packed up back in their bunker that will never see the light of day.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
An item is worth EXACTLY what someone is willing to pay for it.
In times like these demand outweighs supply and prices are set to match that difference. Nobody is forced to pay more than they are willing to pay. The prices are this high now because some people are willing to pay those prices. When that stops the prices will drop.
It is hard to gouge the willing.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
There wouldn’t be as many “willing” if the Scoundrels would stop their buzzard tactics.
People who want it pay what the asking price is and will offer to pay ridiculous prices for things that are not for sale in order to get it.
I have ammo.
I don't sell it. I've given some away to close friends and family and even shipped some to people free of charge (a few from Georgia who I only know from this site...I am in Pennsylvania) it was ammo I don't use and will never use. I have no problem helping others.
Conversely, friends, friends of friends, customers, casual acquaintances etc.. know I hunt, shoot, reload and often contact me when someone is looking for a box of something and I'll get a text asking that a neighbor's cousins buddy wants to know if they know anyone that has XXXX and he will pay $$$$ for it. So they "think" of me and a few others. Basically people will offer stupid amounts to entice someone to sell them something that they want.
I don't advertise. I tell who ever contacts me to lose my number that I am not an ammunition supplier and do not want them to let anyone else know what I have or more importantly what they THINK I have.
But the truth is people who want to buy something badly enough, ammo, cars (new Broncos selling for 5 grand over sticker because people are OFFERING to pay it so they have the first one in the neighborhood) guns, name it... WILLINGLY over pay just so they can own it.

I am fully aware of the people who make multiple trips into retail stores and bring family and friends along to hoard and resell. I get it. But people are willing to buy from them.
People are lazy. They dont want to drive around to hopefully find ammo somewhere. They want to click to buy it and have it shipped to them. If they didnt, the "scoundrels" would be sitting on a garage full of overpriced ammo that they cannot get rid of instead of waking up at 6am to find 3 boxes that they can sell online before they leave the parking lot wouldn't be selling any.
Supply and Demand.
Capitalism
The American ways

And edited to add:
I dont see anything wrong with someone who is prepared or who puts forth the effort to accumulate something making a profit from someone else who is clueless and procrastinates.

There is a saying if you want something:
Good, Fast, Cheap...Pick Two.
Because it won't be the third one.
I am sure three similar words can be used to describe this ammunition situation.
 
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Hillbilly stalker

Senior Member
Ain't nothing wrong with helping people like that. I applaud your effort. But to write off greed as capitalism is wrong. Ain't no way to pretty it up.
 
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