treemanjohn
Banned
Farmers feed more than themselves. I see 6 or 8 deer every day out my back window. Georgia has an excellent population
I’m not so sure I would blame that solely on the permit. That happens all over the place without permits. Nothings going to stop some people from getting those mighty horns to hang on the wall and lie about the hard work they put in to get the killOne of the issues that hasn't been brought up here yet is people with permits allowing friends to shoot bucks. Dnr finally caught up with individuals who had a permit on a field adjacent to our lease, they were shooting trophy bucks that I had on camera all summer. Then all of a sudden there are zero trophies on my cam. Game warden got involved and they were caught red handed killing these bucks. Oh they choose to shoot the bucks in late Aug and early Sept...go figure
Because that is a one time expense and a long term solution and the cost spreads out over many years....and I believe you need to find another fence supplier if you are gonna be charged that much...just sayin.
Those of you fussing about the farmers, did ya`ll have a good supper last night? How about clothes to wear?
That argument only goes so far Nic. Do they enjoy the trucks they drive or the tractors and tools they use, do they enjoy the house they live in or the relationship with their financial and sales institutions, all of which are needed for them to farm successfully so you can eat that supper and wear them cloths. If the issue is so bad why do most of these farmers not allow hunters on their property. That's the situation I am around, i have heard of guys around our area killing 70 plus deer per year on those permits, yet the farmer doesn't allow anyone to hunt their land, not even through a lease. I would think that if the deer were that big of a problem you would be seeking hunters out during the season to reduce the herd size. Perhaps if the issue is so bad we should allow hunters in those counties to hunt at night with permits and thermals during the season as well and let them take bucks, surely that would help them out a lot. I had a farmer in Michigan who allowed me to hunt his land and I stated to him one day that I bet he was glad I was removing some of these deer off his property, his comment back to me was that if he wasn't a good enough farmer to feed a few deer and still make a profit than he would get out of the farming business.
Another funny fact. Most the deer here are bucks. Some are nice. Few does. Come hunting season most the hunters bring in does and young bucks.
Them big bucks know where to eat and avoid hunters during the season.
Painting all crop depredation permit hunters with a broad brush as bad or killing every deer they see is just as bad as saying all cops are racist and evil.
Most of them don`t want strangers traipsing around on their property, and I don`t blame them at all.
Bottom line is the food they grow is fuel for the body. Without it, you die.
I’m in SWGA. Now riding around we see doe after doe and young. Bucks.Perfect example of why the either sex days need to be drastically reduced,, at least through the middle of the state
I don't believe it falls on the permit hunters. It falls on the state and their hap hazard way of handling the program. Let an individual go out to a farmers field and poach a deer and they will hang him but then let a permit hunter gut shoot a deer so that it dies later somewhere else so that the farmer doesn't have to count it against his permits and that's ok. My friend has picked 3 does out of his sunflower garden this week alone that were all gut shot somewhere else and died on his property. The state needs to come up with a better solution, like having individuals obtain a license for deer removal. They would have to pass a training course and be licensed by the state and when a farmer has a deer issue then they must use these licensed individuals to reduce the burden on the farmer. Should they not follow the rules set forth they lose their license, or worse depending on the infraction.
Again, that argument don't fly. If it gets that bad I will grow my own. They do a service, no different than any other service out there. If they didn't make any money they wouldn't do it. And they are only strangers on the first day...after that they are individuals you know.
Bill, if that was to happen, most of these farmers and plantation owners would simply take matters into their own hands. It`s not a question if he`s a good farmer or not. If he`s not a good farmer to begin with, it won`t be deer that brings him down.
Isn't that what they are doing now, taking matters into their own hands. These permits are a joke. They are more like legalized poaching than anything else.
I`m not arguing with you. I`m just telling you how it is. At least here in South Georgia.
Wish I could grow a garden. ?Again, that argument don't fly. If it gets that bad I will grow my own. They do a service, no different than any other service out there. If they didn't make any money they wouldn't do it.
Wish I could grow a garden. ?
Too many deer ?
Grow your own then. Plus meat. Can’t have meat with out grain.
It ain’t a walk in the park.
Even free rangechicken are hard.
Again, that argument don't fly. If it gets that bad I will grow my own. They do a service, no different than any other service out there. If they didn't make any money they wouldn't do it. And they are only strangers on the first day...after that they are individuals you know.
Buckpasser said:I’d personally have more respect for them if ag here was truly a capitalist venture instead of being so propped up.
That's the situation I am around, i have heard of guys around our area killing 70 plus deer per year on those permits, yet the farmer doesn't allow anyone to hunt their land, not even through a lease. I would think that if the deer were that big of a problem you would be seeking hunters out during the season to reduce the herd size.