The G.O.A.T of whitetail deer

TriggerHappyJake

Senior Member
Ok guys, if there is one thing I have read about, listened about, studied, and watched, its B&C whitetail deer antlers. Regardless of state of origin or method of harvest. That being said I am here to state forever that the Hole in the Horn buck from Ohio is the greatest non-typical whitetail deer to have ever walked this Earth. For those of you who are not familiar with said animal then allow me to elaborate. The Hole in the Horn buck is a name given to a deer that was found deceased in Ohio sometime in the late fall of 1940. The deer was discovered on land belonging to the Ravenna Arsenal in Portage county. The arsenal was currently in use to provide munitions to be shipped to the front in the early days of WW2. According to a former employee of the arsenal by the name of George Winters, the deer's remains were spotted at the base of a chain link fence by a passing train crew. Winters and another employee with the last name flower then proceeded to return sometime in the day to investigate. The narrative goes that the right antler of the buck was buried beneath the base of the fence. As the head was attempted to be removed from its resting place it was said that it was held fast by a strand of wire from the fence that protruded into a portion of the antler itself which left a hole. The head was then reportedly cut from the decaying carcass and was taken to the car of Flower. Now, Flower was reportedly a member of a local men's club know as the Kent Canadian Club. It is speculated that he gave the head and antlers to the club which in turn allowed a local taxidermist to mount for display. The mounted head then hung in the clubhouse for the next 40 years. fast foreword to early 1983 when a noted antler collector named Dick Idol "discovered" the mounted head within the clubhouse. The antlers were measured and entered into B&C.
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Now, with the story told, I will explain my reasoning behind my claim of this buck being the greatest of all time. First, the deer has a net non-typical score of 328 2/8 which leaves him at 2nd place for the highest scoring non-typical whitetail. Yes he is second to the Missouri Monarch buck that was found dead in 1981. However this is simply because the aforementioned buck is only slightly more symmetrical than the Hole in the Horn buck as is B&C method of measuring to favor the symmetry of a deer's antlers. The Missouri Monarch's antlers, in my opinion, pales in comparison to the Hole in the Horn. The Ohio whitetails rack weighs in at eleven and a half pounds as well as sporting an outside spread of thirty three inches. His abnormal growth is the highest ever found on a whitetail rack with 192 7/8 of growth. This is simply staggering. To put it into prospective this buck has more abnormal growth than the Georgia state record typical has in its entire rack. 23 points on the right and 22 on the left bring a total of 45 points, the third highest number of points ever found on a whitetail rack. This is the first and currently oldest whitetail to ever be entered into B&C records that scores above the 300 inch mark.
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Numbers aside I marvel at the story of this deer. He came from a time in America when whitetails did not receive nearly the attention they do now. No one was planting food plots, making mineral licks, or supplementary feeding deer in 1940s Ohio. The state did not even hold its first deer season until 3 years after this buck was found. Mother nature alone had a hand in producing such an animal. One thing that I feel is lost on many people regarding this deer is that it was able to live and die without once crossing paths with a hunter. I personally feel like that there was not a hunter that could be found worthy of taking this deer. Instead he lived and died and came to us after his purpose was served on Earth. I have heard it said that this deer, having not been harvest by one singular hunter, belongs to all hunters who take to the field every year. All hunters to ever have witnessed this deer have harvested it in their minds and so we can all smile as we look upon it regardless of place of origin, age, or gender.
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Now comes the time for me to state the obvious. Yes, there will be many who disagree with me proclaiming this buck of yester year as the G.O.A.T and yes I have crammed much too much typing for a single forum post. But I never get the chance to express my thoughts about this incredible animal and I just wanted to speak my mind. Thanks for reading.
 

Shadow11

Senior Member
Wow. Those are some very unnatural looking antlers, but definitely neat to look at. I wonder if maybe he was blind and kept running into trees when he was in velvet? Maybe the folks that grew him did some cutting/bending to his rack while he was in velvet? Definitely different and one of a kind when compared to 99.999% of the rest.
 

HermanMerman

Senior Member
I have a couple of books lying around somewhere…Legendary Whitetails I believe is the series. Probably 25 years old but the stories of both deer above are in it. I’ll have to go dig around for them.
 

HermanMerman

Senior Member
I have that book. It's a good one. Georgia's Greatest Whitetails by Duncan Dobie is my favorite.

I didn’t know that one existed, but I’ll be sure to find a copy.
 

specialk

Senior Member
If memory serves me he killed it in Wisconsin along a railroad bed with a obscure caliber like 32-55 lever gun....just out meat hunting and crossed paths with that giant.....
 

buckpasser

Senior Member
I guess he may be the GOAT of nontypicals, and all of us would shoot him, but he honestly don’t do much for me. Racks like that just look deformed and useless as weaponry, which is what a rack of antlers ultimately is. As mentioned and shown above, the Jordan buck is king.
 

NWS

Senior Member
If memory serves me he killed it in Wisconsin along a railroad bed with a obscure caliber like 32-55 lever gun....just out meat hunting and crossed paths with that giant.....
i still say jim jordans buck is the goat! i grew up a teen fantasizing about killing a deer like that.....it stood the test of time for a long time....


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If memory serves me he killed it in Wisconsin along a railroad bed with an obscure caliber like 32-55 lever gun....just out meat hunting and crossed paths with that giant...
The rifle that killed the Jim Jordan buck was a 25-20 Winchester. Location was near the Yellow River outside of Danbury, Wisconsin in Burnett County which is in Northwestern Wisconsin.

The hole in the horn rack may arguably be the G.O.A.T. NT rack of all time however, the G.O.A.T. human deer hunting story is the story of the Jim Jordan former world record typical. It is quite a story about how Jim never received credit for bagging the world record and how he finally recovered it. Duncan Dobie has covered the story several times. Also, if you have access to one of the first 1980’s issues of North American Whitetail magazine, the ending “Trails & Tails” story about an “old buck hunter named Jim” is worth a read, if you can find a copy.

In my opinion, the Jordan deer rack is the most beautiful and perfectly balanced massive typical whitetail antler sets of all time. The extreme mass of the antlers is carried through and perfectly matched on both sides of the antlers and is worthy of “GOAT” greatest status, because of this and also the personal human story of “ An Old Buck Hunter Named Jim”.
 
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Bananaslug22

Senior Member
I was under the impression that the hole in the antlers was a human made hole by someone at the bar where it was hanging. The mount was heavier on one side so the men at the bar drilled a small hole in the rack and hung a wire on the wall through that hole to pull the mount up on one side so it would be level looking on the wall. It kept swiveling on the one nail/screw in the wall.
This info was in an article I read not too long ago.
 

WOODIE13

2023 TURKEY CHALLENGE 1st place Team

basshappy

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The arsenal has some giants, and some have been taken through the years during their hunts. IIRC this buck was harvested from the arsenal. The tough thing about the hunts, unless they've changed, is you are given an area to hunt and that is your zone, and a rep stays with you to make sure you stay in your zone. I don't know how it is determined who gets what zone. But boy, imagine grasping the shortest straw ...

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godogs57

Senior Member
I get the chance to hold the actual Hole In The Horn buck’s antlers in my hands shortly after it was found by Dick. Saying the deer was huge would be a gross understatement.
 
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