BanjoPicker
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Sad you don’t know that.Who ever said Adam had eternal life?
Where'd you get that from?
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Sad you don’t know that.Who ever said Adam had eternal life?
Where'd you get that from?
He has power over all flesh and all things consist by Him.Not everything in me belongs to Christ and I have to wonder if someday I might just walk away into the sunsets of the world--having seen enough, having lived enough and faith begone.
Yes, our wayward emotions and thoughts do not derail the consistency of Christ's power over us, or in us.He has power over all flesh and all things consist by Him.
Even our thoughts to the contrary.
This feigning of sadness is not merely a tiresome ruse I am a bit too familiar with myself, but rather manipulative in its intentions (also something I am too familiar with).
You are talking to a man steeped in passive aggression (anything else you care to know?)
Jesus Christ is just...aggressive.
Conquerors are.
And it came to pass, when the time had come that He should be received up, He steadfastly set His face to go to Jerusalem
Amen
Now what?
The free gift is of many offences unto justification.Can a saved man ever fail in one point? Then he is guilty of all and must confess or be lost.
There is no comparing.
Amen, Perfect!Perhaps a simple comparison.
The first imperfect Adam.
The second perfect Adam.
I've been envious of that "pre fall" Adam, walking with God in the cool of the day.And yet...Adam was perfect to that thing for which he was created.
That Jesus Christ be glorified.
I've been envious of that "pre fall" Adam, walking with God in the cool of the day.
Yet, the Christ in you, the hope of glory?
Maybe on this side of what was redeemed by the second Adam was far better than the earthly walking Adam?
Perhaps. And perhaps for another discussion.
The free gift is of many offences unto justification.
is not only an assumption born of wrong inference, but it presumes Adam to have being in stature as equal to Jesus Christ.
But this is not an unusual assumption, for all men imagine so; that "if only" reserved to themselves in their believing they "could have" or "should have known better" that can only be dispelled as a vanity when the utter supremacy of Christ's "no vanity" is revealed.
Not an iota. Which testifies against our own.
It is a gift to be embraced...this having our own vanity condemned at every turn. For it frees us from the penance we gladly take to ourselves in subterfuge for the display of that vanity. "I" should have known better, reserving to itself that it (the "I") had/has any power to be and do according to its own better-ness.
Thanks be to God for none of that "if" in Christ nor His plea that it be fashioned to "Forgive them Father, they should know better". And yet here I speak in absurdity. But do not doubt I am qualified to the absurd having been shown mercy in all the absurdity of my own presumptions. Yes, I used to think Christ as one who simply gave me (and any) the power of "do over" as though (in that now) more information bequeathed me a power to be "better". Living in comparison of Adam and Christ.
Is this saying Christ is not "better"? God forbid...for that is just as wrong an assumption as any other. But there is no comparison even if for some sake of clarity that Paul...(who came to understand)...refers to both Adam and Jesus Christ. But it is for the sake of dispelling comparison, not endorsing it.
The first man is of the earth...earthy...and was a living soul.
But Jesus Christ, the man of Heaven is Heavenly and is a life giving spirit, and until such time as the truth of that matter dispels all dispositions toward a comparing of what is ultimately shown apples and oranges...(our language is such a poor discipline) the man who must compare (in not knowing) will compare.
He cannot help himself...thinking "if only Adam had..." and then himself gives himself over to such penance he believes is right answer for transgressing by afflicting himself with such thinking. "If only I had..." and there offering up the affliction of his own soul.
"When thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin..." (and not the grief of our own experiences of consequences) He shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand".
Is it any wonder that chapter begins with "who hath believed our report?" And "to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?"
The lamb slain from the foundation of the world is all unlike the man who took the fruit.
But how? One might ask.
One tried to escape being an earthen vessel.
One submitted wholly to it.
Because the children were partakers of flesh and blood he likewise partook of the same...
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
One man grasps at something.
Another is entirely different because He does not.
There is no comparing.
And yet...Adam was perfect to that thing for which he was created.
That Jesus Christ be glorified.
Did he hide his self or tried to hide his shame? Cain, his son, knew he was not hidden from the Lord, especially he asked for sanctuary of none other. Do you think by faith he was... ah...answered? ( But that is just a tangent.)No doubt the of Adam still holds to a god from whom he believes he can hide. With some ignorance attributable.
That would not be on Adam.Adam was created to be prefect and not sin, but he did
Christ coming is the cause.if he had not sin Christ would not have had to come and die for our sins.
The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:He was not created to that thing for to sin. God did not created him to sin or start sin in the world.
Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?If that is what you are replying then you are saying God is a sinner.
Theosis?To which I reply, tho the outer man perishes the inner man is renewed (to the knowledge of Christ) day by day.