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Did you reload anything today #4
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Jester896
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i have compressed US869 so hard in my 6.5WSM when I pulled them I had to dig it out hard to get it out of the case.
Darkhorse
Senior Member
I don't consider it an unknown science, what causes the difference in accuracy is actually fairly simple.
I am looking for the point in the node where the bore is still for a fraction of a second. I am doing this by changing the seating depth. Consider this; A bullet seated at the recommended OAL shoots 1.0" groups. To simplify things assume we are not yet at the point where the bore is still. So we seat a bullet .010" further out and get a .500" group. Why?
At 3,000 fps a bullet that is .010" closer to the node starting out will be closer to the node when the bullet strikes. Hitting farther up the slope of oscillation, possibly close enough to reduce the group to .500"
The same principle works equally well going the other direction. I cannot load a round loaded to OAL in the clip of my Browning rifle, in fact to be reliable the length will be .100" shorter than OAL. Many people swear that seating the bullet closer to or jamming the lands is the only way to increase accuracy.
Yet my rifle, a off the shelf Abolt II, That I did nothing to and left it in pure stock form shot a .188" group and many more around .250". And loaded Max. still reliably averaged .500".
I don't know about anybody else but for me a 1/2 group was and is the holy grail with a factory stock rifle. I was glad to get the accuracy I got but never really hoped for.
Realize though that just working the seating depth didn't get me here by itself. I make a attempt the get my finished round as concentric as possible to the axis of the round and true to the bore. This gives the round it's best chance to shoot those one hole groups.
menhadenman
Senior Member
I’ve heard and read other stuff along these lines @Darkhorse - Cortina, Newberry, and all that OBT stuff that goes way down that rabbit hole you’re describing.
Tricky thing for me is trying to balance becoming a better shot vs chasing equipment and loads.
I was a terrible handgun shot - at least past 10 yards - until one summer I spanked about 2k rounds out of a 22 LR pistol. Still not great but much better and know where I’m going wrong.
Getting dialed in vs putting things to use is always a battle (let’s talk fishing one day!).
You’re advice is solid, thanks for sharing.
rosewood
Senior Member
You are still just observing the results, you can't observe what is going on in those micro seconds of the explosion in the chamber.
Rosewood
Darkhorse
Senior Member
To do this right the amount of shooting you will do will also serve to make you a better shot.
Shooting off a bench rest teaches you breath control, trigger control and form. Combined with shooting from positions makes you an all around better shot. That's just my humble opinion.
Yeah let's talk fishing one day. I love to fish for big bass and bream and I fished King Mackeral tournaments for 10 years. The story of the one that got away during a Greater Jacksonville Kingfish Tournament will almost make you cry. It did me anyway.
Shooting off a bench rest teaches you breath control, trigger control and form. Combined with shooting from positions makes you an all around better shot. That's just my humble opinion.
Yeah let's talk fishing one day. I love to fish for big bass and bream and I fished King Mackeral tournaments for 10 years. The story of the one that got away during a Greater Jacksonville Kingfish Tournament will almost make you cry. It did me anyway.
Darkhorse
Senior Member
True. But the results are what I'm after.
rosewood
Senior Member
menhadenman
Senior Member
Dang, I feel like a regular ol’ Wednesday night for @Adam5 - loaded up some of the 308s discussed above in my remaining clean, sized, deprimed Lake City.
Don’t know how I had two partial jugs of Varget but drained those and had to break into my 8# stash to finish off. Feels like a night when I got too loose with my high end whiskey.
Time to unload on this particular round!
Don’t know how I had two partial jugs of Varget but drained those and had to break into my 8# stash to finish off. Feels like a night when I got too loose with my high end whiskey.
Time to unload on this particular round!
Adam5
Senior Member
@menhadenman we are going to load those 350 legend rounds either tomorrow or next Monday. Before we do those I need to finish stocking up on 44 mag and 44 special.
Dub
Senior Member
Adam5
Senior Member
Tonight we loaded some more .44 rounds.
300 .44 Spl that are a 240gr cast semi-wadcutter over 8.5gr of AA5.
300 .44 Mag that are a 240gr Xtreme plated flat point over 24gr of W296 and a CCI 350 magnum primer.
I still have 400 .44 Mag brass to play with next week. I won’t be reloading this weekend due to my girlfriend having knee replacement surgery in Chattanooga early tomorrow weekend. I’ll spend the weekend at her house playing nursemaid.
300 .44 Spl that are a 240gr cast semi-wadcutter over 8.5gr of AA5.
300 .44 Mag that are a 240gr Xtreme plated flat point over 24gr of W296 and a CCI 350 magnum primer.
I still have 400 .44 Mag brass to play with next week. I won’t be reloading this weekend due to my girlfriend having knee replacement surgery in Chattanooga early tomorrow weekend. I’ll spend the weekend at her house playing nursemaid.
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Dub
Senior Member
menhadenman
Senior Member
Chattanooga is a good town to be in, hope it goes well.
You’re a beast on the reloading!
Adam5
Senior Member
Thank you!
I’m not sure if I reload a lot so I can shoot a lot, or if I shoot a lot to have brass to reload.
Dub
Senior Member
menhadenman
Senior Member
menhadenman
Senior Member
I’m not far from ‘nooga, gimme a shout if you get in a pinch or want to grab a brewski.
Adam5
Senior Member
With an early morning surgery, we’ll name back at her house in Calhoun by mid to late afternoon. I’ll take you up ok meeting for a brewski another time. I’ll be in Calhoun on Saturdays for the next several weeks instead of her coming here to Woodstock.
