Non Drinking Clubs

[stubrew]

Also good to have a kid around camp to run you out to the sack o suds.

 

[Bobby Linton]

It's a big struggle for some folks. Myself included. I think it's good that folks have the option to hunt with like minded people. When I quit drinking I thought I would never be able to enjoy hunt camp again. Boy was I wrong. It's hard to belive but you can have a full rich life without it if you are struggling. I wish I could have been a responsible drinker, but it just wasn't in the cards for me. I do understand that drinking is fine and I am the one with the problem. I don't judge other folks for drinking. Some of us may just need some extra space to feel comfortable. It's not so much a judgment of others but an acceptance of a failure on my part.

 

[brian lancaster]

not judging at all just see the destruction that drinking has done to deer camps and to this country as well.if you cant see the damage it does to our young people from seeing grown folks act as such you need to search your heart in my opinion.

 

[NE GA Pappy]

It teaches our kids about drinking responsibly and that moderate, controlled drinking is not an issue.

I had much rather have my daughter around responsible adults having a few drinks or even pointing out what happens when someone has too many, than to hide drinking from her and make her curious.

I've always thought kids that grew up with responsible drinkers are a lot less apt to go crazy with alcohol than kids that have been shielded from drinking.

what other vices do you like to expose your children to, so they won't be curious about them?

 

[stubrew]

Hard to learn five card stud in a classroom.

 

[Sixes]

what other vices do you like to expose your children to, so they won't be curious about them?

One child, but she's been around smokers, drinkers, cussers, speeders, tax cheaters, and I am sure several other things. She is also 16 years old and a straight A student and has never posed any issues other than the typical teen attitude.


What do you try to "shield" your kids from? Or is your goal to make judgemental too?

 

[Danuwoa]

And some might learn that respecting others doesn't include condemning them for having a drink after a day of hunting, either, just because it doesn't fit into their personal belief system. .

You can't ever tell what somebody brings to something like this. What I mean is, I don't know the man at all, but a lot of times people with a super hard line stance on something like this have bad stuff in their past associated with it. I know a man who will not touch alcohol and refuses to be around anyone who is drinking at all. The reason, his daddy was a drunk and a mean one and growing up his family's life was filled with misery because of it. You never know. We are all guilty of being judgemental from time to time. All of us. And when I judge the judgemental, what does that make me?

It's already been made clear that stating your opposition to such on religious grounds is strongly discouraged on this forum but I will say I get that part of it too as I'm a Christian myself. A poor excuse for one but...

I would be pleased to join you in a beverage around a fire some time, Hillbilly. I think for the most part people agree more on this than they disagree and we are all friends here so there is no need for anybody to get too out of sorts about it.

 

[Rackinup]

You must be confused. This is the Deer Hunting forum. The Spiritual forums are further down on the home page. Just scroll down a little bit. You'll find them.

Sounds more like an alcohol forum ?

 

[NE GA Pappy]

One child, but she's been around smokers, drinkers, cussers, speeders, tax cheaters, and I am sure several other things. She is also 16 years old and a straight A student and has never posed any issues other than the typical teen attitude.


What do you try to "shield" your kids from? Or is your goal to make judgemental too?

I hope she continues to make the right choices in her life. I bet she is either into sports or music also. Most straight A students are involved in one or the other.

Not trying to be judgemental at all, I just wondered what other vices you wanted to expose her to under your supervision, so she wouldn't be curious about them. There is a multitude of vices, and most have not real benefit when they are examined closely

 

[NCHillbilly]

You can't ever tell what somebody brings to something like this. What I mean is, I don't know the man at all, but a lot of times people with a super hard line stance on something like this have bad stuff in their past associated with it. I know a man who will not touch alcohol and refuses to be around anyone who is drinking at all. The reason, his daddy was a drunk and a mean one and growing up his family's life was filled with misery because of it. You never know. We are all guilty of being judgemental from time to time. All of us. And when I judge the judgemental, what does that make me?

It's already been made clear that stating your opposition to such on religious grounds is strongly discouraged on this forum but I will say I get that part of it too as I'm a Christian myself. A poor excuse for one but...

I would be pleased to join you in a beverage around a fire some time, Hillbilly. I think for the most part people agree more on this than they disagree and we are all friends here so there is no need for anybody to get too out of sorts about it.

True that. I know people who have suffered from the ravages of alcohol abuse personally or in their family. It's a problem, and a nasty one, and I sympathize with it. My only point is to not transfer your personal experiences of your mean drunk stepdaddy or whoever to everyone who enjoys a cold beer with a meal or a glass of bourbon at day's end. Because most people who drink, which is most people in general, aren't violent, obnoxious drunks.

 

[Triple C]

True that. I know people who have suffered from the ravages of alcohol abuse personally or in their family. It's a problem, and a nasty one, and I sympathize with it. My only point is to not transfer your personal experiences of your mean drunk stepdaddy or whoever to everyone who enjoys a cold beer with a meal or a glass of bourbon at day's end. Because most people who drink, which is most people in general, aren't violent, obnoxious drunks.

Well said NCH. We prolly all have folks in our family or extended families that have no business ever parsing the lips with alcohol of any type. I've observed it in my own family. It's an ugly, ugly thing. When it comes to consuming alcohol, most folks have an automatic kill switch that when reached, turns off the desire for another drink. A couple of drinks after or before dinner and you just don't want another. A few don't have that kill switch and boy, that's when it gets ugly. They can't stop until they're just obnoxious drunks.

I HATE being around those people and generally, we all have one or two in our own families that are missing the kill switch. I sure don't want to be around em at deer camp.

 

[LittleDrummerBoy]

The challenge is that moderation is hard to enforce without a breathalyzer. Enforcing drinking only "at the end of the day" is also hard to enforce.

Every gun club I know of has a strict "no drinking" policy and will escort you off the property immediately if any signs of drinking or drug use are apparent.

Guns, deer stands, and other stuff one encounters in the woods are dangerous and require significant care. I'm not a prohibitionist by any means. But there are some things drinking does not mix well with, and these include driving, boating, hunting, and shooting.

 

[Johnny 71]

There is no place for drinking in a hunting club period. Guns and alcohol have never mixed and never will. What does that teach our kids. Shouldn’t even be a topic about it. Another sign of the ignorance of living outside of Gods plan

You say there is no place period ? Or we are ignorant, and living out of Gods plan, What if we have a work day, and afterwards, a dinner with a couple of beers ? Does that make us ignorant and living out of God plan ? Or how about ,I’m not as serious about hunting in the morning , so I like to sit around the fire in the evening, listening to, and telling stories, singing songs, or just fellowship, while I sip on a mixed drink. Does that make me ignorant and living out of God’s plan?

 

[NCHillbilly]

Well said NCH. We prolly all have folks in our family or extended families that have no business ever parsing the lips with alcohol of any type. I've observed it in my own family. It's an ugly, ugly thing. When it comes to consuming alcohol, most folks have an automatic kill switch that when reached, turns off the desire for another drink. A couple of drinks after or before dinner and you just don't want another. A few don't have that kill switch and boy, that's when it gets ugly. They can't stop until they're just obnoxious drunks.

I HATE being around those people and generally, we all have one or two in our own families that are missing the kill switch. I sure don't want to be around em at deer camp.

I spent a few decades of my life playing music in bars. Drunks can be very annoying, to say the least.

 

[humdandy]

Not for me............but to each his/her own.

 

[TerrellBuckman]

Alcohol, guns and hunting camp go together like peas and carrots if you ask me, some of you need to settle down and relax and let the good times roll

 

[TerrellBuckman]

I always have at least 3 cold beers in my hunting pack at all times

 

[elfiii]

I've always thought kids that grew up with responsible drinkers are a lot less apt to go crazy with alcohol than kids that have been shielded from drinking.

The same as kids who grow up around responsible gun owners.

 

[Danuwoa]

Stop forcing your pro alcohol beliefs on everybody, y’all.

 

[elfiii]

The challenge is that moderation is hard to enforce without a breathalyzer. Enforcing drinking only "at the end of the day" is also hard to enforce.

I disagree with this 100%. It's not hard at all. It just takes knowing where the line is and having the backbone to enforce it. Drunks, deer killers, poachers, thieves and other trash aren't allowed on my property and I have no trouble enforcing it and if I do I know who to call.