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BanjoPicker

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The Bible plainly states qualifications for those who will go in the rapture

One must be "in Christ" (1 Thess. 4:16; 2 Cor. 5:17), be "Christ's" (1 Cor. 15:23; Gal. 5:24), do "good" and be "blessed and holy" (Jn. 5:28, 29); Rev. 20:4-6).
 

BanjoPicker

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People will be saved after the rapture of the church

This is clearly stated in Acts 2:16-21, where we read of people being saved and receiving the Holy Spirit in their lives during the tribulation. See Rev. 7:9-17; 12:17; 15:2-4; 20:4-6; where great multitudes of people will be saved and come out of the great tribulation.
 
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BanjoPicker

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The future tribulation will not be world-wide

Nearly every plague that will be poured out in the tribulation states that it will be over fourth or a third part of the Earth only, thus showing that the trouble for which these plagues are sent will be only on part of the Earth. see Rev. 6:8; 8:7-12; 9:18; 16:10, 12. As one will see, Antichrist will rule just a certain part of the Earth, and because he is the one causing the tribulation, it will be only over the part of Earth, which he rules.
 

BanjoPicker

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That he11 has literal fire and not Spiritual fire.

One reading of these passages will prove this: "I am tormented in this flame" (Lk. 16:19-31); "Into the fire that never shall be quenched" (Mt. 25:41, 46; Mk. 9:42-50; Isa. 66:22-24); "He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone . . . . And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever" (Rev. 14:9-11; 19:20; 20:10).
The idea of spiritual fire could never be understood in such plain literal passages that speak of fire, smoke, and brimstone. There is no statement in Scripture that even hints of spiritual fire that will torment people, so to even question the reality and literalness of He11 is showing opposition to the Bible.
 
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BanjoPicker

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The time will soon come when man cannot commit suicide

This will be during the five months of the fifth trumpet judgment in the first three and one-half years of the future tribulation (Rev. 9:1-12). During this time we read that men will desire to die and death shall flee from them. Regardless of how men will seek to kill themselves and others during this time no man can possibly die. This is a special time set apart by God that men will be tormented with the demon creatures out of the bottomless pit, as stated in this passage.
 
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BanjoPicker

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That The devil is a son of God

He is a son of God by creation like all angels and Adam Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:4-7; Lk. 3:38. He could not cease being a son of God, for in that case he would have to be uncreated and that is impossible. That he was a created being is clear from Ezek. 28:11-17; Col. 1:16-18. Sonship means nothing when sin is committed. God will da-mn His own sons when they rebel and get past reconciliation. This is clear from the fact that He11 is prepared for the devil and his angels who are all created sons of God Mt. 25:41, 46.
 

BanjoPicker

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That the mark of the beast is not 666

This the "number of the beast" and not his mark, as is plainly stated in Rev. 13:16-18. There will be three things men will have a choice of taking in the days of Antichrist: the mark of Antichrist, his name, or the number of his name. What the Antichrist's name and mark will be is not stated; but the number of his name is stated as being 666. Therefore, no man can now know his name or his mark and will never be able to know them until the Antichrist comes after the rapture of the church, However, anyone now can know that 666 is the number of his name, as is revealed in Rev. 13:18.
 

gemcgrew

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That the mark of the beast is not 666

This the "number of the beast" and not his mark, as is plainly stated in Rev. 13:16-18. There will be three things men will have a choice of taking in the days of Antichrist: the mark of Antichrist, his name, or the number of his name. What the Antichrist's name and mark will be is not stated; but the number of his name is stated as being 666. Therefore, no man can now know his name or his mark and will never be able to know them until the Antichrist comes after the rapture of the church, However, anyone now can know that 666 is the number of his name, as is revealed in Rev. 13:18.
That reminded me of what another man had to say about it. I was reading him about 3 or 4 years ago. Thanks for the reminder.

“Here is wisdom,” saith John, “let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” {Rev.13:18} Here is man numbered, and his time numbered unto him, the time of his work, all that God wrought was very good, but all that man works is complete vanity, he himself is “lighter than vanity.” {Ps.62:9} So his number is the number of a Beast, for he is like the beast that perisheth without understanding; so his number is six, the days of work, though he attain to six in all the dimensions of it, 666 and 6666 and 66666, all is but six, for he cannot attain to seven; for seven is the day of God, the day of rest, the day of the manifestation of Christ, whom none can know except the Father reveal him; but man sits still in darkness, and labors in the very fire for complete vanity, which our wise and learned men not understanding, busy themselves to put this beastly name upon others; some upon the Turk, some upon the Pope, to be the Beast, and the Antichrist, because they know not that it is in themselves until the Lord reveal it." ~ Richard Coore {Practical Expositor, 1683}
 

BanjoPicker

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That no man now knows who the Antichrist will be?

This is true because he is coming "AFTER" the ten kingdoms are formed inside the old Roman Empire territory (Dan. 7:23-24) and "AFTER" the rapture of the church, or "AFTER" the hinderer of lawlessness has been removed from the Earth (2 Thess. 2:7, 8).
 

BanjoPicker

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That giants twice lived on the Earth fifteen to thirty feet tall

In Gen. 6:4 we read "There were giants in the earth IN THOSE DAYS [before the flood]; and ALSO AFTER THAT [after the flood], when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them." Thus giants were born and grew up in those days. That these giants were more than fifteen feet tall is clear from Deut. 3:11 where the bedstead of Og was eighteen feet, nine inches long and eight feet, four inches wide. They were giants living on the Earth who were even taller than Og. Giants are mentioned in scripture many times (Num. 13:33; Deut. 2:11, 20; 3:11, 13; Josh. 12:4; 13:12; 15:8; 17:15; 18:16).
 

BanjoPicker

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The mark of the beast cannot be given today.

The reason for this is that the beast himself has not yet come and will not come until the last seven years of this age. No man can take the mark of the beast or can know what it will be until the literal fulfillment of Rev. 13 during the last three and one-half years of this age. This is why the mark cannot be given today. What is said of the mark can also be said of the name of the beast. No man can know what his name will be until he comes. The number of his name men can know now, for it is revealed in Rev. 13:18 as being 666. This is the only one of the three brands that men will take in those last days of this age and it is the only one of which the meaning is stated.
 

Spotlite

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What did you do with Banjo?????
 

BanjoPicker

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What possessed you to use that name? You sure there is not copyright on it? :)
Would it be any different than air brush painting a shirt that says Georgia Bulldogs on it, or if I had put Jonah Hex on it, or even put Gordon 2 on it, if it is wrong it can be fixed easily I will just have it changed.
 

BanjoPicker

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There is a difference between the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God.

The Kingdom of Heaven in this age is the realm of profession as taught by the parables, wherein the tares and wheat and the good and bad are in the Kingdom of Heaven. The Kingdom of God is the realm of God in the vast universe. The Kingdom of Heaven is only a part of the universal Kingdom of God.
 

gordon 2

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There is a difference between the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of God.

The Kingdom of Heaven in this age is the realm of profession as taught by the parables, wherein the tares and wheat and the good and bad are in the Kingdom of Heaven. The Kingdom of God is the realm of God in the vast universe. The Kingdom of Heaven is only a part of the universal Kingdom of God.
I wonder why
"Seek the kingdom first..."?

And which kingdom should we seek first knowing there are two spiritual kingdoms? The Kingdom of heaven, a part kingdom, where good and bad is? Or the universal Kingdom of God--- the realm of God? And how do we proceed to acquire one or the other? How do we seek with assurance that we will find one or the other?
 

BanjoPicker

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I wonder why
"Seek the kingdom first..."?

And which kingdom should we seek first knowing there are two spiritual kingdoms? The Kingdom of heaven, a part kingdom, where good and bad is? Or the universal Kingdom of God--- the realm of God? And how do we proceed to acquire one or the other? How do we seek with assurance that we will find one or the other?
The usage of the two terms in parallel passages may be as follows: The Kingdom of Heaven is a lesser term than the Kingdom of God. It is the Earthly sphere of the universal Kingdom of God, and in this respect the terms have almost all things in common. Therefore, in an earthly sense, everything that is or could be spoken of the Kingdom of Heaven could be spoken also of the Kingdom of God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is the earthly sphere of the Kingdom of God. on the other hand, there are some statements made of the Kingdom of God in this age that could not possibly be spoken of the Kingdom of Heaven. When the two terms are used parallel passages they refer to this age only, for the Kingdom of Heaven during this age has been changed from literal kingdom to the sphere of profession, because of the rejection of the King who will be the earthly King of the Kingdoms of Heaven when it is finally set up in the next age.

General Contrasts Between the Two Terms

THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN


It has the Messiah as its King,
It is from Heaven, under Heaven, and upon the Millenium. Then it becomes submerged into the Kingdom of God forever (Jn. 18:28-37; 1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 19:11-20:10).
It is limited in its scope (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 5:10).
It is political in its sphere (Isa. 9:7; Dan. 7:13, 14, 18).
It is Jewish and exclusive in its character (Isa. 9:6, 7; Lk. 1:32-35; 2 Sam. 7:1-29; Ezek. 43:7).

THE KINGDOM OF GOD
It has God as its King.
It is in Heaven and over the Earth during the Millenium. Then it comes down to the Earth to engulf the Kingdom of Heaven forever (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Rev. 21:3; 22:5; Dan. 2:44, 45; 7:13, 14, 18).
It is unlimited in its scope (Ps. 103:19; Col. 1:16; Rev. 4:11; 5:11).
It is moral and spiritual in its sphere (Rom. 14:17; Jn. 3:5; 1 Cor. 4:20).
It is universal and inclusive in its character (1 Cor. 15:24-28; Ps. 103:19; Col. 1:10-18; Rev. 4:11).
This is just a few of the contrasts between the two terms.
 

gordon 2

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Very complicated. I find it difficult that there is good and bad in both Kingdoms. But I'm not the sharpest tack in the box by any standard. Your probably right about this. I'm just not able to follow.
 

Spotlite

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Very complicated. I find it difficult that there is good and bad in both Kingdoms. But I'm not the sharpest tack in the box by any standard. Your probably right about this. I'm just not able to follow.
It is not as complicated as some make - there is only one Kingdom, it is a where God dwells as King.

When Jesus is speaking to the rich young ruler He uses Kingdom of Heaven and Kingdom of God interchangeably, not as two different places. Tons of scripture in Matthew and Luke where both terms are used interchangeably.

One God - one Kingdom. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
 
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