BanjoPicker
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God the Father is coming visibly to the Earth at the second coming of Christ.
This is plainly stated in Dan. 7:9-14; Zech. 14:5; Titus 2:13.
This is plainly stated in Dan. 7:9-14; Zech. 14:5; Titus 2:13.
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Difficult to “know” some of that.
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
BanjoPicker
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That The Righteous Are In A Conscious State Of Bliss Between Death And Resurrection.
This is true of Lazarus and all the Old Testament saints who were held captive in the lower parts of the Earth before Christ captured them and led them to Heaven when he ascended on high Lk. 16:19-31; Mt. 12:40; Eph. 4:7-11; Heb. 2:14, 15. This was true of Moses who appeared with Christ on the mount while his body was in corruption in Moab Mt.17:3; Deut. 34:5, 6; Jude 9. This will be true of the future martyrs of the tribulation Rev. 6:9-11. And this will be true of all who die in Christ now and go to Heaven until the resurrection 2 Cor. 5:8; Phil. 1:21-23; 1 Thess. 4:16.
This is true of Lazarus and all the Old Testament saints who were held captive in the lower parts of the Earth before Christ captured them and led them to Heaven when he ascended on high Lk. 16:19-31; Mt. 12:40; Eph. 4:7-11; Heb. 2:14, 15. This was true of Moses who appeared with Christ on the mount while his body was in corruption in Moab Mt.17:3; Deut. 34:5, 6; Jude 9. This will be true of the future martyrs of the tribulation Rev. 6:9-11. And this will be true of all who die in Christ now and go to Heaven until the resurrection 2 Cor. 5:8; Phil. 1:21-23; 1 Thess. 4:16.
BanjoPicker
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There have been and will be five raptures in the first resurrection.
First, the going to Heaven of Christ and the saints that were resurrected after His resurrection Mt. 27:52; Eph. 4:7-11; Acts 1:11; second, the rapture of those "that are Christ's at His coming" 1 Cor. 15:23; 1 Thess. 4:13-16; third, the rapture of the 144,000 Jews in the middle of Daniel's Seventieth Week Rev. 12:5; 14:1-5; Dan. 12:1; Isa. 66:7, 8; fourth, the rapture of the tribulation saints Rev. 7:9-17; 15:2-4; 20:4-6; fifth, the rapture of the two witnesses Rev. 11:3-12.
First, the going to Heaven of Christ and the saints that were resurrected after His resurrection Mt. 27:52; Eph. 4:7-11; Acts 1:11; second, the rapture of those "that are Christ's at His coming" 1 Cor. 15:23; 1 Thess. 4:13-16; third, the rapture of the 144,000 Jews in the middle of Daniel's Seventieth Week Rev. 12:5; 14:1-5; Dan. 12:1; Isa. 66:7, 8; fourth, the rapture of the tribulation saints Rev. 7:9-17; 15:2-4; 20:4-6; fifth, the rapture of the two witnesses Rev. 11:3-12.
BanjoPicker
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There are two main resurrections from the dead with a thousand years between them.
The first resurrection is that of the blessed and holy; and this is before the thousand years, we read. "The rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished" (Rev. 20:4-15).
The first resurrection is that of the blessed and holy; and this is before the thousand years, we read. "The rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished" (Rev. 20:4-15).
BanjoPicker
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God eats and wears clothes as we do
This is clear from Gen. 18; Ex. 24:11; Dan. 7:9-14; Isa. 6; Rev. 4-5.
Angels also eat food and wear clothes
This is clear from Gen.18-19; Ps. 78:25; Dan. 10:5-21.
This is clear from Gen. 18; Ex. 24:11; Dan. 7:9-14; Isa. 6; Rev. 4-5.
Angels also eat food and wear clothes
This is clear from Gen.18-19; Ps. 78:25; Dan. 10:5-21.
Artfuldodger
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It does seem like we are all gonna have to be either spiritual or physical in order to see God on a throne and Jesus by His side. At some point we'll all need to be on the same sheet of music so to speak.
It would see, odd to live an eternity with God if he is a spirit and us and Jesus have bodies.
Again though, the Holy Spirit is left out. Unless he too gets a body.
BanjoPicker
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God has already sent some of His sons to He11.
Angels are called the sons of God in Job 38:7, many of them are in He11 now (2 Pet. 2:4; Jude 6-7).
Men will not spend eternity in Heaven.
According to Rev. 21-22 the New Jerusalem, the home of the saints, will be moved from Heaven to the Earth after the Millennium. This proves men will spend eternity on Earth instead of Heaven.
The devil never enters bodily into anyone.
The word "in" means in union with and not bodily entrance into, this is the only sense in which he enters into anyone because he has a body of his own and he cannot get bodily into any other body 1 Chron. 21:1; Job 1:6-12; 2:1-7; Rev. 12:7-12; Zech. 3:1-3; Mt. 4:1-11; Ezek. 28:11-17; Rev. 20:1-10.
Angels are called the sons of God in Job 38:7, many of them are in He11 now (2 Pet. 2:4; Jude 6-7).
Men will not spend eternity in Heaven.
According to Rev. 21-22 the New Jerusalem, the home of the saints, will be moved from Heaven to the Earth after the Millennium. This proves men will spend eternity on Earth instead of Heaven.
The devil never enters bodily into anyone.
The word "in" means in union with and not bodily entrance into, this is the only sense in which he enters into anyone because he has a body of his own and he cannot get bodily into any other body 1 Chron. 21:1; Job 1:6-12; 2:1-7; Rev. 12:7-12; Zech. 3:1-3; Mt. 4:1-11; Ezek. 28:11-17; Rev. 20:1-10.
BanjoPicker
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God's glory will be seen again on Earth eternally as it was seen in Israel in the days of old.
This means there will be a pillar of fire by night and a pillar of a cloud by day that will be seen by men when Christ reigns forever on Earth. This is what is predicted in Isa. 4:4, 5; Ezek. 43:1-7.
This means there will be a pillar of fire by night and a pillar of a cloud by day that will be seen by men when Christ reigns forever on Earth. This is what is predicted in Isa. 4:4, 5; Ezek. 43:1-7.
gordon 2
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Do you think there will be taxes when this happens? And for the command to love God with all your heart and others as yourself, will this include still the need to teach from a position of " did you know"? Will there be new things to know when these great pillars are made to gather up our existence? Will preachers still preach and teachers still teach? Or will all be known into a very few things? Will they call out with " Did you know?", the saints as if there were still some works, from the hollows between the pillars? Early in the morning and at crepuscule in the evening...will a man's soul know to call out to his others with " Did you Know?" when the pillars will be high to his sight both day and night? Will the patience of the angels be tried as it is today? As when man reads the heart of God even for them and supposing all of it they have it not? And under the alter will there still be a need for scripture, its devoted still to convert a few? Do you know? And the Church will it be in there with you?
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It is difficult to read, to see, to hear the false teachings, even fairytales , propagated, without a clue if it is okay to expose the darkness(es) thereof. I think I appreciate your post , as it is the closest (and only) post I've seen that seems to at least make known not to listen nor pay attention nor heed nor value the fables.
BanjoPicker
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King David will soon again reign in Jerusalem over the whole house of Israel.
This will be true in the Millennium and all succeeding ages. There are a number of passages which mention David as being resurrected from the dead to reign again over all Israel Jer. 30:9; Ezek. 34:24; 37:24-28; Hosea 3:4, 5. This proves that David will have a higher position in the eternal kingdom than will the twelve apostles who will have only one tribe each Lk. 22:28-30. Jesus Christ will be over David and all other kings and priests of that period. He will be King of Kings and Lord of Lords Rev. 17:14; 19:12, 16.
This will be true in the Millennium and all succeeding ages. There are a number of passages which mention David as being resurrected from the dead to reign again over all Israel Jer. 30:9; Ezek. 34:24; 37:24-28; Hosea 3:4, 5. This proves that David will have a higher position in the eternal kingdom than will the twelve apostles who will have only one tribe each Lk. 22:28-30. Jesus Christ will be over David and all other kings and priests of that period. He will be King of Kings and Lord of Lords Rev. 17:14; 19:12, 16.
BanjoPicker
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A literal earthly kingdom will continue on this planet forever.
This is proved from the following Scripture Dan. 2:44, 45; 7:9-14, 18; Isa. 9:6, 7; Lk. 1:32, 33; Rev.1:5; 5:10; 11:15; 22:5, 6; Zech. 14.
This is proved from the following Scripture Dan. 2:44, 45; 7:9-14, 18; Isa. 9:6, 7; Lk. 1:32, 33; Rev.1:5; 5:10; 11:15; 22:5, 6; Zech. 14.
BanjoPicker
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The ten tribes of Israel were never lost any more than the two tribes
All the tribes of Israel were scattered among the nations during this time that ten of them were supposed to have been lost Lk. 21:24; Rom. 11. Paul, James, and others recognized this fact Acts 26:7; James 1:1; Rev. 7:1-8; Ezek. 37. All of them were lost spiritually in the same sense that Gentiles are lost Mt. 10:5, 6; 15:24.
All the tribes of Israel were scattered among the nations during this time that ten of them were supposed to have been lost Lk. 21:24; Rom. 11. Paul, James, and others recognized this fact Acts 26:7; James 1:1; Rev. 7:1-8; Ezek. 37. All of them were lost spiritually in the same sense that Gentiles are lost Mt. 10:5, 6; 15:24.
BanjoPicker
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That Syria and Israel will soon make a military alliance
This is clear from the fact that Antichrist will come from Syria and will make a seven years covenant with Israel (Dan. 9:27).
This is clear from the fact that Antichrist will come from Syria and will make a seven years covenant with Israel (Dan. 9:27).
BanjoPicker
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The Arabs will protect Israel during the great tribulation
This seems impossible as we look at the present enmity between the Jews and Arabs, but present enemies will make friends in the latter days. The Antichrist will seek to control all of Europe, Asia, and Africa when he comes. He will gain control of the ten future kingdoms that will be formed inside the Roman Empire. He will enter Palestine and make Jerusalem his capital during the last three and one half years of this age. The Jews will have to flee into the wilderness of Edom and Moab, or modern Arabia and Trans-Jordan, which part of the world escapes the Antichrist Dan. 11:40-45; Isa. 16:1-5; Ezek. 20:33-39; ; Hosea 2:14-16; Matt. 24:15, 16; Rev. 12:6, 13-16.
This will be the only part of the world next to Palestine that will escape the Antichrist and it will be the only place that the Jews from Judea can flee for protection.
This seems impossible as we look at the present enmity between the Jews and Arabs, but present enemies will make friends in the latter days. The Antichrist will seek to control all of Europe, Asia, and Africa when he comes. He will gain control of the ten future kingdoms that will be formed inside the Roman Empire. He will enter Palestine and make Jerusalem his capital during the last three and one half years of this age. The Jews will have to flee into the wilderness of Edom and Moab, or modern Arabia and Trans-Jordan, which part of the world escapes the Antichrist Dan. 11:40-45; Isa. 16:1-5; Ezek. 20:33-39; ; Hosea 2:14-16; Matt. 24:15, 16; Rev. 12:6, 13-16.
This will be the only part of the world next to Palestine that will escape the Antichrist and it will be the only place that the Jews from Judea can flee for protection.
BanjoPicker
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There must be at least three more European wars before the Battle of Armageddon and the second coming of Christ.
In Dan. 7:23, 24 we have a prophecy that ten kingdoms must be formed inside the old Roman Empire territory in the last days. These ten kingdoms referred to are the same ones as are symbolized by the ten horns on the beast of Rev. 13 and 17. In Rev. 17:12-17 it is stated that they will give their kingdoms of the future Antichrist, and then will fight against Jesus Christ at His second advent. This proves that all must be in existence when Christ comes. There are twenty-two states inside that territory now. Therefore, if these countries must be formed into ten kingdoms and be in existence when Christ comes, changes must be made sometime in the future that will affect these states.
It will take one war to form these ten kingdoms before the Antichrist comes. This is the first war. Then Dan. 7:23, 24 it states "after them" that is, after the ten kingdoms are formed, then the Antichrist will arise and subdue three of them. This is the second war. In Dan. 11:40-44; Rev. 17:12-17 it is revealed that the Antichrist will finally get power over the whole ten kingdoms. The third war will be fought between the ten kingdoms under the Antichrist and the nations that are north and east of the ten kingdoms. In other words, Russia, Germany, and other countries north and east of the ten kingdoms inside the old Roman Empire territory, will fight these ten kingdoms during the last three and one-half years of this age. Antichrist will be the victory, and he will then lead the nations against Jerusalem and the Jews, but Christ will come and defend the Jews and destroy the Antichrist and set up His kingdom in the world forever (Zech. 14:1-21; Ezek. 38-39; Joel; 3; Isa. 63; Rev. 17:14; 19:11-21; 20:1-10).
In Dan. 7:23, 24 we have a prophecy that ten kingdoms must be formed inside the old Roman Empire territory in the last days. These ten kingdoms referred to are the same ones as are symbolized by the ten horns on the beast of Rev. 13 and 17. In Rev. 17:12-17 it is stated that they will give their kingdoms of the future Antichrist, and then will fight against Jesus Christ at His second advent. This proves that all must be in existence when Christ comes. There are twenty-two states inside that territory now. Therefore, if these countries must be formed into ten kingdoms and be in existence when Christ comes, changes must be made sometime in the future that will affect these states.
It will take one war to form these ten kingdoms before the Antichrist comes. This is the first war. Then Dan. 7:23, 24 it states "after them" that is, after the ten kingdoms are formed, then the Antichrist will arise and subdue three of them. This is the second war. In Dan. 11:40-44; Rev. 17:12-17 it is revealed that the Antichrist will finally get power over the whole ten kingdoms. The third war will be fought between the ten kingdoms under the Antichrist and the nations that are north and east of the ten kingdoms. In other words, Russia, Germany, and other countries north and east of the ten kingdoms inside the old Roman Empire territory, will fight these ten kingdoms during the last three and one-half years of this age. Antichrist will be the victory, and he will then lead the nations against Jerusalem and the Jews, but Christ will come and defend the Jews and destroy the Antichrist and set up His kingdom in the world forever (Zech. 14:1-21; Ezek. 38-39; Joel; 3; Isa. 63; Rev. 17:14; 19:11-21; 20:1-10).
Core Lokt
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There is only one son of God. Who are these sons you speak of?
BanjoPicker
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The expression "sons of God" is used only five times in the Old Testament and EVERY TIME IT IS USED OF ANGELS UNLESS IT BE IN Gen. 6.
It is used in Job 1:6; 2:1; of angels in Heaven presenting themselves before the Lord. Satan came also with them to present himself before the Lord. The scene was in Heaven in both cases, as proved by the fact that Satan had come FROM the Earth. These sons of God presenting themselves before the Lord at least could not have been the sons of Seth, for godly men did not go to Heaven before Christ conquered death and he11. The righteous before this went into the lower parts of the Earth instead of Heaven Matt. 12:40; Eph. 4:7-11; Heb. 2:14, 15. Now since Christ conquered death and he11, and the grave, the saved souls go immediately to Heaven at death 2 Cor. 5:8; Phil. 1:21-23. Hence, Seth's sons could not have been in Heaven in Job's days.
Spotlite
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Try reading the next couple of verses in Job 1. The sons of God presented themselves ….…and Satan came also……..God asked Satan where he’d been.
It’s clear in Romans that those that are led by the spirit are the sons of God. It was also clear that Jesus was referred to as the only begotten son - there’s a distinct difference in what’s called the sons of God and the son of God.
Keeping everything in context matters.
