Question about a Buddhist monk.

NCHillbilly

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Unless I’m missing something, I don’t think stringmusic is judging the monk.

1) Scripture is clear: we are not saved by our good works.

2) The monk only has good works, so how can he be saved … according to scripture? He can’t be saved … according to scripture.

Can God, in His infinite mercy, save him anyway? Yes.
The monk has scripture that is just as clear that tells him something different. There are more people believe that scripture is the truth than ones that believe ours is.
 

NCHillbilly

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A tenet so basic, that all major branches of Christianity accept it.

I’m reminded of the line in Raiders of the Lost Ark:

“Didn’t you guys ever go to Sunday School?”
You can also shut your mind so tight that it squeezes your brain to death. Jesus had him a ball breaking them scriptures and whatnot. The Pharisees didn't like it. They killed him for it.
 

NE GA Pappy

Mr. Pappy
String sure has taken a beating in this thread and the other one for stating what scripture states. You might not like it, you might not agree with it, and you may even think it is not correct, but String has stated what Scripture states..

1 Christ is the only way to Heaven

2 Without accepting Him, you aren't going to Heaven

3 No matter how good you are, you aren't good enough to get into Heaven without accepting Christ as Saviour.

Why are y'all trying to crucify the man for him stating what he believes, and what, for centuries, the Church has held as Scriptural truth?

Don't like what it says? Go argue with God about it
 

4HAND

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String sure has taken a beating in this thread and the other one for stating what scripture states. You might not like it, you might not agree with it, and you may even think it is not correct, but String has stated what Scripture states..

1 Christ is the only way to Heaven

2 Without accepting Him, you aren't going to Heaven

3 No matter how good you are, you aren't good enough to get into Heaven without accepting Christ as Saviour.

Why are y'all trying to crucify the man for him stating what he believes, and what, for centuries, the Church has held as Scriptural truth?

Don't like what it says? Go argue with God about it
Amen.

We are saved through God's grace.
Christ gave the ultimate sacrifice when he shed his blood on Calvary.
You cannot earn your way into Heaven.
The only way is accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior.
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
String sure has taken a beating in this thread and the other one for stating what scripture states. You might not like it, you might not agree with it, and you may even think it is not correct, but String has stated what Scripture states..

1 Christ is the only way to Heaven

2 Without accepting Him, you aren't going to Heaven

3 No matter how good you are, you aren't good enough to get into Heaven without accepting Christ as Saviour.

Why are y'all trying to crucify the man for him stating what he believes, and what, for centuries, the Church has held as Scriptural truth?

Don't like what it says? Go argue with God about it
If you mean me i dont think i was? It really did just start off as a way to look at behavior versus spiritual beliefs. Besides the man launched this party, and then started an additional thread about it. I kinda feel like that means he wanted to debate the idea. I never! And i mean never ever intend to be disrespectful over a mans religion. You know i go round n round about all kinds of stuff on here, but when it comes to peoples faith im pretty dang hands off. Unless they wish to chat about it. Which i think he do.
 

Ruger#3

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Amen.

We are saved through God's grace.
Christ gave the ultimate sacrifice when he shed his blood on Calvary.
You cannot earn your way into Heaven.
The only way is accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior.
We all agree on this but differ greatly on how that occurs within our faith. Baptist and like faiths look for the aha moment. Other faiths bring their children up in the way that leads them to the awareness. We get to the same conclusion by different paths.
 

NE GA Pappy

Mr. Pappy
If you mean me i dont think i was? It really did just start off as a way to look at behavior versus spiritual beliefs. Besides the man launched this party, and then started an additional thread about it. I kinda feel like that means he wanted to debate the idea. I never! And i mean never ever intend to be disrespectful over a mans religion. You know i go round n round about all kinds of stuff on here, but when it comes to peoples faith im pretty dang hands off. Unless they wish to chat about it. Which i think he do.
he was asked his belief. He answered the question and was dog piled on because some folk didn't like his belief. Then he was accused of enjoying the thought of someone burning for eternity. Repeatedly

tell me again how that is respecting his belief system
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
he was asked his belief. He answered the question and was dog piled on because some folk didn't like his belief. Then he was accused of enjoying the thought of someone burning for eternity. Repeatedly

tell me again how that is respecting his belief system
Well i can only speak for me but again, he brought it up. You read the original thread. You tell me it didnt sound like he was standing in judgement of that lady, then some fellow Christians who disagreed with his approach, and then a made up monk who lived like Jesus. The man went full speed ahead on this one and got some push back. It happens.
 

livinoutdoors

Goatherding Non-socialist Bohemian Luddite
I will also say i mean no disrespect to any men of the Christian faith, and i hope you have not taken anything i have said as such.
 

Ruger#3

RAMBLIN ADMIN
Staff member
It’s a simple principle one gets to chose what their beliefs are, one doesn’t get to chose what another man’s beliefs are. You can stomp and scream until your blue in the face. The other person has right to their opinion.
 

Danuwoa

Redneck Emperor
“What are you GON do tonight Ange?”

“Think I’ll stop by choir meetin. Suposed to be gettin new choir robes. One wants white with black trim. Another one want black with white trim. I ‘spect they’ll be fightin about it all night.”
 

Artfuldodger

Senior Member
The Op's original question included "So my question to professing Christians is?"
He was neither asking non-Christians nor did he sound judgmental. He then stated some Scripture along the way.

I would also add Romans 8:9-11
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.
10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness.
11 And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit, who lives in you.

There is no way one can have everlasting life without the Spirit of Jesus in them according to Scripture. To believe that Jesus is not the only way, is OK but you'd have to believe in another religion or be Oprah or Joel Osteen.
That being said, Christianity may be wrong and Jesus may not be the Messiah. But most Christians have faith and hope that he is.
 

Ruger#3

RAMBLIN ADMIN
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The Original Rooster

Mayor of Spring Hill
After reading through this thread again a few times, I know it bothers many that the apparent injustice of how the good and kind people who do good things and wrong no one could not go to heaven, but I tell you not to worry about it. I leave you with this regarding the rich young man's salvation.

And looking at them, Jesus said to them, “With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Remember and focus on the Great Commission and leave judgement and salvation to God.

“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to follow all that I commanded you; and behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
 

NE GA Pappy

Mr. Pappy
After reading through this thread again a few times, I know it bothers many that the apparent injustice of how the good and kind people who do good things and wrong no one could not go to heaven, but I tell you not to worry about it. I leave you with this regarding the rich young man's salvation.

And looking at them, Jesus said to them, “With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Remember and focus on the Great Commission and leave judgement and salvation to God.

“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to follow all that I commanded you; and behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
the thing that I think most don't consider is that God is Holy. He will not have any sin in His presence. Every human that has ever reached adult hood has sinned many, many times. Each one of us has lied, probably stolen something ( did you take that pen from work), been drunk, fooled around, or something that would be a sin.

Without forgiveness of those sins, the Bible says you won't make it into heaven. It doesn't matter how much good you have done, If there is one spec of sin, you are guilty.

This is not a balance beam where God loads all the good stuff someone has done on one side, and all their bad stuff on the other. Which ever side is heaviest is the way they go... Nope. One sin will out weigh all the good and noble things a person could accomplish in an eternity.

Forgiveness is the only cure. And that is a gift from God
 
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