The Bible

[BanjoPicker]

TWENTY CENTURIES HAVE NOT IMPOVED IT.
Enemies of the Bible have made claims that the Bible can be improved upon, but none of them have ever tried to prove such claims except in talk, and talk is very cheap. If man had written the Bible in the first place he certainly could make a better one today, since he claims to be far superior to the original writers of the Bible. It is too much to expect of the modern superiors of the Bible authors? Until man makes a better book or one a billionth as good as the Bible, common sense requires him to lay aside all criticism of something better than he can produce. All books written and rewritten by man without inspiration can and are constantly being improved. Even men who are not authors of these books can improve upon them. Why can't they do this with the Bible? Why do not other books stand the criticism of the Bible? All this proves that the Bible must be of divine origin.

 

[hopper]

The Bible, or God's Words of Scripture, is very simple to understand. No man has any excuse for misunderstanding it. Jesus constantly invited and provoked study of the Scriptures and even rebuked men for their lack of knowledge of revealed truth. He attributed all error to a lack of knowledge of the Bible. He answered His critics by saying, "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God" (Mt. 22:29). He commanded men to "Search the scriptures; for in them ye THINK ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me" (Jn. 5:39).

After more than three years of the most, simple teaching by the greatest of all teachers, the disciples had to be rebuked for their unbelief and hardness of heart. This was not because they could not understand but because they did not believe what Christ said. He said to them, "O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken" (Lk. 24:25-27). Even after Christ had appeared and manifested Himself to them in various ways, they still refused to believe until He unbraided them for their unbelief and hardness of heart (Mk. 16:13, 14). The words Christ spoke were always simple enough to understand, but to believe them was another thing. You too may have a struggle at first, to really realize the benefits promise you, according to the Bible. You should begin now to believe the promises of the more abundant life and expect these benefits. You should begin to believe the good news that these blessings are for you and begin to appropriate them now.

If so simple to understand why do so many interpret verses differently. My Wife,Daughter and Myself will read the bi le together then all discuss what it meant, sometimes with 3 different points of view

 

[Artfuldodger]

Plus there would not have to of been two different councils of men voting on what it said.
And with that being said a bunch of different denominations based on what each one believes what the Bible says.

 

[Artfuldodger]

TWENTY CENTURIES HAVE NOT IMPOVED IT.
Enemies of the Bible have made claims that the Bible can be improved upon, but none of them have ever tried to prove such claims except in talk, and talk is very cheap. If man had written the Bible in the first place he certainly could make a better one today, since he claims to be far superior to the original writers of the Bible. It is too much to expect of the modern superiors of the Bible authors? Until man makes a better book or one a billionth as good as the Bible, common sense requires him to lay aside all criticism of something better than he can produce. All books written and rewritten by man without inspiration can and are constantly being improved. Even men who are not authors of these books can improve upon them. Why can't they do this with the Bible? Why do not other books stand the criticism of the Bible? All this proves that the Bible must be of divine origin.

From what I recall, it was God writing through the ancient prophets. Some of these were prophets of another testament of Jesus Christ.

 

[BanjoPicker]

And with that being said a bunch of different denominations based on what each one believes what the Bible says.

Rev. 2:1 unto the angel of church of Ephesus:
Rev. 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna:
Rev. 2:12 And unto the angel of the church in Pergamos:
Rev. 2:18 And unto the angel of church in Thyatira:
Rev. 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis:
Rev. 3:7 And unto the angel of the church in Philadelphia:
Rev. 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans:

do you see any differences in these churches as for denominations?

These churches all believe the same word without denomination. We have about any denomination in the world today, but it should not be, but it is because every time someone in church don't believe or like the true word of God or what is being preach to them, they get mad and say well I will just go and start my own church. Like we have more churches today with pastors that have been married twice elected in them because they have love, ones as members of the church in them that have been married twice. There is just one true Word of God, and there is just one church sure there are many good people in every church but there are, but one foe and other sheep must come into the one foe.

Matt. 16 :18 And I say also unto thee. That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church: and the gates of He11 shall not prevail against it. Only one church, the body of Christ made up of all born-again believers (1 Cor. 12:13; Eph. 2:20-22; 4:13; Acts 15:13-18).

 

[BanjoPicker]

THE DOCTRINES OF THE BIBLE ARE CONTRARY TO ALL HUMAN TEACHINGS.
It is the strangest book and has the strangest teachings. Its ideal and the method of approach to that ideal are wholly unlike those of any human book. The teaching of the Bible of getting life through death, self-exaltation through self-abasement, salvation through grace and not of works, and many other teachings are supernatural and unlike human teachings. The way of the Bible to become great is by being a servant of all, not through lording it over all and making all servants to self as is the human way. When one is nothing from the standpoint of the Bible, he is somebody, and when he is somebody, he is nothing. When one loses his life, he finds it and finds his life he loses it. The way up is down. So, it continues with practically all principles and ways of life according to the Bible. This is why a complete change must be made in every man who consecrates himself to obey the Bible.
God's way of worship was not man's way, as proved by Cain and Abel. Man's way of improvement in life is not God's way. Man goes at it by self-effort and human culture, while God demands a new creature and complete abandonment of self-effort and works. He requires entire dependence upon God and His working in the life. For this reason, many natural men cannot understand the ways of God. For this reason, many of them refuse God's way, as did Cain. Paul said, "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14). No man could have written such things contrary to his natural self, and no man can attain to the principles of the Bible apart from God, so the Bible must be of God.

 

[BanjoPicker]

THE GENUINENESS AND AUTHENTICITY OF THE BIBLE PROVES IT TO BE AN INSPIRED REVELATION FROM GOD.

By genuineness mean that the books were actually written in the age to which they are assigned and by the men whom they are ascribed. By authenticity mean that the Bible relates truthfully the matters of which it treats, and its contents are the same today as written originally. From man's standpoint, the genuineness and authenticity of the Bible rest upon the claims of the Bible itself, the original manuscripts, lectionaries, patristic quotations, ancient and modern versions, archaeology, and secular history.

 

[BanjoPicker]

THE CLAIMS OF THE BIBLE ITSELF

In points above of:
Fulfilled Prophecy Proves The Inspiration Of Scripture True.
Miracles Also Prove The Divine Revelation Of The Bible.
The Testimony Of The New Testament To The Inspiration Of The Old Testament.
The Claims Of The Bible And Its Writers Prove Its Inspiration.

Fulfilled prophecy, Bible miracles, and the claims of the Bible, all go to prove its revelations and inspiration. If the Scriptures are inspired, they are also genuine. If they are genuine, they are authentic, for genuineness is based upon authenticity.

SECULAR HISTORY

The events described in the New Testament were well known as facts throughout the Roman Empire and have been quoted and referred to as actual events by fifty other authors of the first centuries of the Christian era. The whole fragment of their writings still remain. Jerome, 392 A.D., mentions about fifty others whose writings have perished. These writers belonged to all parts of the world and represent both pagans and Christians. They agree in quoting Scripture as genuine and authentic. They refer to the Bible as a distinct volume, universally received as God's Word. Early versions attest the truth of the Scriptures. Heretics who separated from the main body of believers still held to the fact that the Bible was God's Word and was genuine and true. They different only in doctrines which they supposed the Bible to teach. Even ancient infidels who fought the Bible based their reasoning upon the very facts our present Bible contains, so it must have been in existence then as it is today.

 

[BanjoPicker]

Heathen and Jewish writers confirm the facts of Christ and His followers and the existence of both the Old and the New Testament. Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius, Juvenal, Pliny and others, 93-117 A. D., all confirm statements of sacred history. There is no event in ancient history that can produce more than a fraction of evidence by which the Bible in its entirety is sustained as genuine and authentic. The Christian has more proof and more right to believe that all the-versions of Scripture had one original than for Americans to believe that all the copies of the Declaration of Independence had one original.
We should not receive the canon of Scripture upon the authority of the Fathers and Church Councils. We should receive them only on the same grounds they received them because we have evidence that they were written by a group of credible and inspired men. The Scriptures are here; as seen in all points above, there is only one way to account for such a book and that is by revelation and inspiration of God. They have power because God is in them.

 

[BanjoPicker]

MANUSCRIPTS.
No original Manuscript of the Bible can be produced because of the fact that they were written thousands of years ago on perishable material, but they do not need to be found in order to prove the genuineness and authenticity of the Bible. After 170 years the original Declaration of Independence shows old age and should it be lost, we could still believe its original contents by the many copies we have of it today. Scholars today are willing to admit as genuine and authentic any writing of the same period if ten or more copies can be found. There are many thousands of copies of the original writings of sacred writers. These writings are in Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Syriac, Chaldee, Samaritan, Arabic, Armenian, Egyptian, Ethiopic, Gothic, Persian, Coptic, and many other languages.
Many of these ancient Manuscripts date back to the third and fourth centuries, and a few even before that. New discoveries of new and older Manuscripts are being found constantly. Many thousands of ancient writings (even running into the million) have recently been found in Egypt in a good state of preservation because of the dry climate where papyri (paper) could be best preserved. These are throwing much new light upon the New Testament, but always the light confirms the fact that it was in the beginning as it is today.

 

[Ruger#3]

We should not receive the canon of Scripture upon the authority of the Fathers and Church Councils. We should receive them only on the same grounds they received them because we have evidence that they were written by a group of credible and inspired men. The Scriptures are here; as seen in all points above, there is only one way to account for such a book and that is by revelation and inspiration of God. They have power because God is in them.

The revisionist in the reformation didn’t agree with you. They tossed out and resequenced much. Revelations was completely disregarded as a frivolous text until the outcry got too loud.

 

[BanjoPicker]

The revisionist in the reformation didn’t agree with you. They tossed out and resequenced much. Revelations was completely disregarded as a frivolous text until the outcry got too loud.

And where is the Bible scripture on what your saying?

 

[BanjoPicker]

Many used to argue that the early Bibles were not like ours, but since many new ones have been found that date even from a time long before Constantine, it is certain that the first ones were like ours of today. Not even one discovery has been made that is opposed to the overwhelming testimony regarding the antiquity of the Bible. About ninety years ago we had only 550 Manuscripts collated by scholars. Thirty years ago, there were 1,700 and today there 4,200 and they all confirm the integrity and purity of the Bible.

 

[BanjoPicker]

LECTIONARIES.
These make another link in the chain of evidence proving the genuineness and authenticity of the Bible. The lectionaries were lessons or portions of Scriptures from the Gospels and Epistles that were read in churches. There 1,000 of the Gospels and 300 of the acts and Epistles known to exist.

 

[BanjoPicker]

THE PATRISTIC QUOTATIONS.
These are quotations from the early Christian writers. These form a gap between the oldest whole Manuscripts of the third and fourth century back to the time of the apostles. If the New Testament were destroyed all but eleven verses of it could be collected again through the writings of the early church fathers of the first three centuries. These writings may be brought today in ten large volumes called "The Ante-Nicene Fathers." These early writers all quote from both Testaments and agree that they are genuine and authentic. They refer to both Testaments as a distinct volume, universally received as divine, so both of them were in existence in their day. Some of these writers quote the Bible as many as 17,922 times.

 

[BanjoPicker]

THE ANCIENT AND MODERN VERSIONS COMPLETE THE CHAIN OF EVEIDENCE, THAT THE BIBLE IS GENUINE AND AUTHENTIC.
These versions are in many languages, some dating back to the first and second centuries. They are valuable in determining the exact text of the Bible.
Besides these, we are finding today many hundreds of fragments of Scriptures and whole sermons dating back to the first three centuries, in which are quoted many portions of the Old and New Testament. Harmonies of the Gospels, ancient prayers and amulets, Christian hymns and letters, commentaries of certain Scriptures, catalogs of Bible books, and many other forms of evidence of ancient times are now in our hands. So, we can say with a definite assurance that our Bible today is the same as it always has been when holy men of God wrote as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

 

[BanjoPicker]

THE BIBLE MUST BE FROM GOD BECAUSE OF THE INEXHAUSTIBLE PROOFS OF ITS INSPIRATION.
It would take a lifetime to search out and record all the proofs of all the ages and lands that the Bible is a revelation from God inspired by the Holy Spirit. A book like this is divine.

 

[Ruger#3]

And where is the Bible scripture on what your saying?

Simply close it and look at the spine. King James Version, a text approved by King James for use through out the Church of England. Translated by a committee of theologians for the king to approve. It omitted the Apocrypha, 7 books. This English translation is the Bible most Christians know.

The Vulgate is the Bible that had been used in the Catholic Church for thousands of years prior to the reformation. It is the Hebrew and Greek scriptures translated into Latin, which was how services were delivered during the period.

Luthers, German translation of the Bible contained some of the Apocrypha but was selectively edited.

“In fact, Luther’s first German translation was missing 25 books (i.e., Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Esther, Job, Ecclesiastes, Jonah, Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach (i.e., Ecclesiasticus), Baruch, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Matthew, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation. He referred to the Epistle of James as “straw not worthy to be burned in my oven as tinder.” The rest he called “Judaizing nonsense.” Subsequent Protestants, deciding that Luther wasn’t reallyinspired by the Holy Spirit, replaced most of the books he had removed.”

Calvin wrote commentaries or his “interpretation“ of each book of the Bible. There is no commentary on Revelations. There is no documetation as to why. Theologians vary on opinion as to why, didn’t concur, didn’t understand, or died so young as to not have completed the task.

Which of those Ancient Greek or Hebrew scrolls is the inspired word you speak of, there are many. Man has had a hand in the Bible many times and interpretations vary some what.

Was Noah 500 years old upon entering the ark or 600. Does it really matter considering the topic?

 

[BanjoPicker]

Simply close it and look at the spine. King James Version, a text approved by King James for use through out the Church of England. Translated by a committee of theologians for the king to approve. It omitted the Apocrypha, 7 books. This English translation is the Bible most Christians know.

The Vulgate is the Bible that had been used in the Catholic Church for thousands of years prior to the reformation. It is the Hebrew and Greek scriptures translated into Latin, which was how services were delivered during the period.

Luthers, German translation of the Bible contained some of the Apocrypha but was selectively edited.

“In fact, Luther’s first German translation was missing 25 books (i.e., Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Esther, Job, Ecclesiastes, Jonah, Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach (i.e., Ecclesiasticus), Baruch, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Matthew, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation. He referred to the Epistle of James as “straw not worthy to be burned in my oven as tinder.” The rest he called “Judaizing nonsense.” Subsequent Protestants, deciding that Luther wasn’t reallyinspired by the Holy Spirit, replaced most of the books he had removed.”

Calvin wrote commentaries or his “interpretation“ of each book of the Bible. There is no commentary on Revelations. There is no documetation as to why. Theologians vary on opinion as to why, didn’t concur, didn’t understand, or died so young as to not have completed the task.

Which of those Ancient Greek or Hebrew scrolls is the inspired word you speak of, there are many. Man has had a hand in the Bible many times and interpretations vary some what.

Was Noah 500 years old upon entering the ark or 600. Does it really matter considering the topic?

See "The New Archeological Discoveries" by Camden M. Cobern.

 

[Ruger#3]

See "The New Archeological Discoveries" by Camden M. Cobern.

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